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    Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    Ok, so I got my first bite from my BCI and first snake bite in 27 years, tonight.

    Behira looked like she was tense/looking for food and curled her neck - as if to strike, when I opened her tank (front door). I called her bluff and started to pick her up from the mid section. WHAM! She turned and nailed me in the arm. Didn't hold on, and I was more upset with me than at her.

    Having said that, she is only 3-3 1/2 Feet now and 700 Grams, and don't want a repeat performance at 7+ FT!

    Today is feeding day, but I have moved her to every 2 weeks, so she skips this week. There were no rats/mice thawed or touched, today, and besides, it was not a feeding bite.

    She seems somewhat territorial in her tank, but is always a puppy dog when I get her out.

    I hooked her a minute later, and she was a tame as can be while I held her for a few minutes.

    A) Could she outgrow this? She's still only about 1 1/2 years old.

    B) Does hook training make sense? She shows zero aggression once out of her tank.

    Additionally, my fiancÚ was in the room and is now freaked out. She does not want an aggressive animal.

    I think this does not make her an aggressive animal. However, I want to be more cautious.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Thank you in advance.


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    Re: Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    I would recommend hook training on all boas that reach significant length. It wouldn't hurt anything to have em hook trained and it might come in handy around the 6 or 7 foot mark. Boas in general are usually pretty docile, but can be nippy , especially when food is involved. I doubt your boa is agressive probably just wishful for food.

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    Re: Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    Any secrets to hook training?

    Or basically, you just take the snake out of the tank with a hook?

    Not trying to be snarky, or oversimplify, but wondering if there is more to it?

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    Every snake is going to have its own personality.

    Maybe you startled her?

    I personally am not much help here as i have never hook trained any of my snakes and i reach in and grab any of them fine. Once they know it's me grabbing them, they just sit there or will come out themselves. If they dont want to come out, they will try and outrun my hand dragging them out lol. I have only been bit because of stupidity on my part like thinking i can reach inside and behind the snake quick enough to move stuff after handling FT rats and not washing my hands. Didnt work.

    For me, i noticed my males tend to look around more and be overall more alert. My females are pretty laid back and more or less just sit there when i reach in. Once they smell food though, i dont trust anyone as they all go from Jeckyll to Hyde.

    And welcome to the club. And really, even a 6 ft bite doesnt hurt much but they do bruise and bleed nicely lol.
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    Re: Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    Im not sure if there is a standard or anything. I start by sticking the hook in and rubbing under the chin very gently and slowly. If the snake is going to do something agressive this is likely where it will happen. After i rub under the chin I stroke the middle back and middle sides. This gets the snake aclamated to being touched where your going to pick it up. Then you can use the hook under the front portion of the body and lift from the middle with your hands like you normally would. I always scoop from the underside by sliding my hand under then lifting. I never grab by the sides or the top.

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    Re: Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    Quote Originally Posted by dakski View Post
    Any secrets to hook training?

    Or basically, you just take the snake out of the tank with a hook?

    Not trying to be snarky, or oversimplify, but wondering if there is more to it?
    No you never use the hook to take the snake out.. Its for letting them know its you and whats to come. Ive use the hook to push their head back if they are nippy so the snake isnt facing me when I grab it with the other hand but you dont lift their weight with the hook. During any feeding times dont use the hook and this way it conditions them a bit to associate the hook with handling time.
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    Re: Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    Ps looks like he got ya open mouth pretty good .. I see the mark under your arm from the bottom teeth...
    From the way you described his behavior I would of let him be unless I had to clean the enclosure.. Sounds like he told you, but you didn't listen hahahaha
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    Re: Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    Yeah, I understand. In the past, I've had BP's hiss etc. I call their bluff and take them out. No problem.

    Again, once I got her out, she was fine. Not sure what he thought process was - but I ignored the obvious signs. She was tense.

    Okay, so to be clear, I use the hook to let her know it's time to come out, but I actually take her out with my hands?

    Additionally, and I know I asked, does this seem like a territory thing? She is so calm 99% of the time. Could just be a bad mood I guess.

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    That was a defensive/go away bite because you touched her unexpectedly. She did not associate you opening her enclosure with being touched on the side. A hook will help with that, just a light rub on their side to let them know that it's "you" about to fool with them, and if the boa strikes the hook you don't care.

    You can also use the hook to control their head, but that's usually when they are foody. A light touch or rub under the chin or on the side of the neck lets them know it's not feeding time.

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    Re: Bite Club - First Bite from BCI Behira/Hook Training

    Quote Originally Posted by dakski View Post
    Yeah, I understand. In the past, I've had BP's hiss etc. I call their bluff and take them out. No problem.

    Again, once I got her out, she was fine. Not sure what he thought process was - but I ignored the obvious signs. She was tense.

    Okay, so to be clear, I use the hook to let her know it's time to come out, but I actually take her out with my hands?

    Additionally, and I know I asked, does this seem like a territory thing? She is so calm 99% of the time. Could just be a bad mood I guess.
    Some snakes are what they call cage defensive or aggressive. I dont know your boy so you have to read him. There are even Balls like this & once they are all out they're A-Ok. But read him from now on as most Balls wont turn around and tag you they just strike strait in front of themselves but Boa's, Retic, Burms & several others will turn right around and grab you. The bigger he gets the longer the reach too so learn that hook & use itvto guide his head/neck so he cant reach you if you need to take him out to clean even if he doesn't want you to.
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