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Well they obviously did not come out of nowhere since you had a male and a female together
Simply get rid of them, you are not prepared and need to focus on providing proper husbandry to the snake you already have instead of adding more to care for.
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I gotta agree with tttaylorrr and Deborah on this one.
Not trying to be a jerk, but fix your current issues before creating more.
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Re: Help! Eggs out of no where!
I'd like to add three things.
1. You should definitively reflect on if you're suitable to raise any animals since you seem to not really care for their needs.
Every ball python needs it's own enclosure! And there are many reasons why this is a rule.
Housing two snakes with different genders in the same enclosure can lead to your situation. It can also stress the animals unnecessarily and it is very difficult to keep track of each snakes' health.
It is your duty as an owner to provide the best care possible and to educate about these animals. Do what is needed for the animals sake. If you don't have the money or space to own two snake, then simply don't.
2. This might be a very personal opinion but even though you don't seem to have any idea how to treat these animals I wouldn't freeze the eggs. I feel like these animals don't deserve to die just because you made a mistake.
My suggestion would be to find someone who knows how to treat these animals and give the eggs to him. If that is not possible, you should probably freeze the eggs since I believe this is the better choice for the animal but that is a last resort. You have to seriously try to find someone to make up for your mistake! Write to every breeder in your area! Call them to get a quick response but do something!
3. Please think about the snakes first! Your decision should not be based on your desires but about what is best for the snakes.
To give you a little something to think about. My brother found my cat in a garbage bin when she was only five weeks old. She was calling for her mother. It seemed like that someone couldn't care for her and threw her into the garbage. He gave her to me (it was summer vacation and my parents were/are working full time, often even the whole nights) and I raised her by bottle because she was still too young to be separated from her mother. Now she is about to turn 3 years old and is a healthy little cat but sadly I couldn't help her to socialise with other cats, so she detests them.
She is a very weird cat lady and acts more like a human than a cat but if no one had found her that night she would have probably died because of an unsuitable owner. Don't be like that person. Please think about the animals! That's the most responsible thing you can do!
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Since you are not prepared to care for them, I would eat them. I hate wasting anything, and I’m sure python eggs are chock full of proteins.
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Re: Help! Eggs out of no where!
Originally Posted by Godzilla78
Since you are not prepared to care for them, I would eat them. I hate wasting anything, and I’m sure python eggs are chock full of proteins.
I wholeheartedly agree with this assessment. I am curious how snake omelettes taste so if you do, please report back on the flavor, texture, and ease of preparation.
Edit: if you decide on creating snake balut, please do not report back because that's just nasty
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Re: Help! Eggs out of no where!
Originally Posted by SDA
Edit: if you decide on creating snake balut, please do not report back because that's just nasty
this was the worst google of my life...TIL what balut is.
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Re: Help! Eggs out of no where!
Originally Posted by Godzilla78
Since you are not prepared to care for them, I would eat them. I hate wasting anything, and I’m sure python eggs are chock full of proteins.
Originally Posted by SDA
I wholeheartedly agree with this assessment. I am curious how snake omelettes taste so if you do, please report back on the flavor, texture, and ease of preparation.
Edit: if you decide on creating snake balut, please do not report back because that's just nasty
Haha, you guys are crazy! Id try just about anything, if it was prepared for me from a restaurant that made snake eggs as a delicacy or something that had experience in it and knew what they were doing, sure. But cooking up my pet snakes eggs, something just doesn’t sound right about that lol. Now I do agree with not wasting anything so if you have some other animal that it would be a good food source for, that’s what I would do. If not freeze them.
There is no reason to bring more unwanted normals into this world that may potentially be mistreated and suffer a long miserable life. Finding a way to get rid of them now before they develop is the most humane thing to do imo.
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Re: Help! Eggs out of no where!
Since snake eggs are somewhat developed at the time of oviposition, it would be snake balut. Too creepy for me.
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Re: Help! Eggs out of no where!
I'm also for eating them, I've had Iguana eggs while traveling through South America and they were delicious not going to lie. It was like eating rich cheddar, I don't know if the taste or texture for python eggs would taste the same but if you try it report back.
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Well, from my own experience, someone will do what they want to do, despite asking for advice and despite best advice given.
Honestly, the best thing would be to destroy the eggs. You already had those animals housed together for one year, when you KNEW it wasn't a good thing. Because you couldn't (or wouldn't) find a better solution just yet.
You say its for financial reasons, because you are trying to purchase 2 big enclosures. And there is nothing wrong with getting enclosures such as that, they are nice !!
However, making 2 nice tubs work, would have been just fine, even if that meant you had to wait on getting the cages a couple month later as planned, because investing a bit of the money into the tub setups.
Now you KNOW all that, so no need to go over it..
If you want to save those eggs and the hatchlings (and I think you do) it will also be a financial investment, don't kid yourself that it won't. Now I understand wanting to save the eggs, I do. Eggs are EXCITING. Little hatchlings are EXCITING. The thought to destroy those possibilities can be hard to swallow.
Now, if despite all the good advice given you want to DO this, then do it RIGHT.
First of all, you have to be prepared.
Even if you let the mom incubate herself and save yourself the cost of an incubator or building one, you will still need to be prepared to house the hatchlings. And PROPERLY so.
You need to be prepared for those hatchlings, even if the eggs at some time of development fail. And that can happen even shortly before hatch date. Housing hatchlings correctly is important. It can be difficult enough to get them eating and thriving as is, if husbandry is not correct, it can be a endless frustration.
Setting them up correctly, even if you go the DIY method, will cost money.
A incubator costs money.
Either of those options taken, you HAVE TO remove the male finally, and set him up CORRECTLY!!! That also costs money, and you need thermostats and correct heat for ALL those setups.
You said you couldn't get $450 together in one year, for the cages of those 2. Even if you go cheap...if you go RIGHT it will cost you at least half of that before the hatchlings hatch.
Then you have to feed them. You WILL waste some food, they don't always go for it right away. You usually have to feed live for the first few feedings. Live rodents, even small ones, can start getting expensive if you get them at the pet store. You should keep (and keep feeding) the hatchlings until they are well established and get a bit of size to them and eat well. Usually that can mean at LEAST 5 meals each. Add that up in rodents, and then add a bunch of rodents to that for failed feedings.
After all that expense and trouble, you will not get much money for the hatchlings, even if you manage to sell them. You will certainly not turn a profit. It can still be a great experience, no doubt, but again, will you do it right ? CAN you ?
Ultimately, you will do what you want. You may not even come back to this thread because you don't like the answers you've been given.
What I would like to see, is that you commit to do the right thing, no matter what they may be. First priority should be the animals you already have. Get them set up correctly.
If you can swing the additional expense of raising a clutch, all the way through, then go for it.
You can stick around and ask for help, and you will get the help. You can find better solutions without breaking the bank. But you have to be willing to accept advice. No-one will condone and help along the way doing this "half-donkey butt".
So its up to you.
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