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    Identifying Blade in clowns?

    Any pointers on differentiating a reduced clown from a blade clown? Kinda hunting for my next pickup and hoping for some pointers on the "possible blade" /"reduced pattern" to have the best shot of getting the two gene.

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    I think there's a lot of confusion about the 'Blade' name. I don't believe it's a separate gene, it's a descriptor for a reduced pattern in Clowns, i.e. you can't have a snake that's Blade without at least being het for Clown. It's similar to Enchi Clown in appearance except that you can't separate out the Blade like you can with Enchi. You have a Blade Clown if the pattern is reduced and there are no other genes at play to reduce the pattern.


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    Re: Identifying Blade in clowns?

    Quote Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    I think there's a lot of confusion about the 'Blade' name. I don't believe it's a separate gene, it's a descriptor for a reduced pattern in Clowns, i.e. you can't have a snake that's Blade without at least being het for Clown. It's similar to Enchi Clown in appearance except that you can't separate out the Blade like you can with Enchi. You have a Blade Clown if the pattern is reduced and there are no other genes at play to reduce the pattern.
    What? Are you sure? I never heard of that.


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    Re: Identifying Blade in clowns?

    Actually I know you are wrong about this, because blade has a super form, making it a totally separate co-dominate mutation.


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    Re: Identifying Blade in clowns?

    Quote Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    I think there's a lot of confusion about the 'Blade' name. I don't believe it's a separate gene, it's a descriptor for a reduced pattern in Clowns, i.e. you can't have a snake that's Blade without at least being het for Clown. It's similar to Enchi Clown in appearance except that you can't separate out the Blade like you can with Enchi. You have a Blade Clown if the pattern is reduced and there are no other genes at play to reduce the pattern.
    I don’t know where you came up with this but it’s incorrect. Blade is just another co-dominant morph. Look it up at wobp and you can also find sellers on morphmarket selling blade combos without the clown morph. It is most commonly bred with clown combos though.

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    Phew that first reply through me as I've seen single geen blades and super blade.
    So with that clear is there a way to differentiate blade from reduced pattern in clowns? Or is it a breeder and see kinda thing?

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    Re: Identifying Blade in clowns?

    I love basic reduced pattern / banded morphs and strongly considered using blade in my project plans. I like that if has a super form and vivid black banding. I do not like clown. I could have mixed and bred blade into other morphs for years and never had a clown or het clown among them. I don’t know a lot about morphs except for the banded morphs are my focus.


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    Re: Identifying Blade in clowns?

    Quote Originally Posted by chakup View Post
    Any pointers on differentiating a reduced clown from a blade clown? Kinda hunting for my next pickup and hoping for some pointers on the "possible blade" /"reduced pattern" to have the best shot of getting the two gene.
    Simple buy from a reputable breeder with a guarantee of both genes. The blade-clowns I have seen have a wide, chaotic dorsal stripe.


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    Re: Identifying Blade in clowns?

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    Simple buy from a reputable breeder with a guarantee of both genes. The blade-clowns I have seen have a wide, chaotic dorsal stripe.


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    There seems to be a lot of possible since still seem to be figuring it out. May make the gamble as found a couple deciding between.

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    The real problem with blade is that people are calling reduced patterns as blade with never having produced a single gene or super form. I am aware of 1 individual who purchased all of his adult breeder clown stock from 1 person who has no blade yet this person sells them as blade when they are reduced. As a matter of fact you can look at posts and they have pics tagged as #noblade then when it doesn't sell they add Blade to the post to help it sell. So that is where the real issue with Blade lies.
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