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Re: Russian Rat Regurgitated
Do you have any way to get a live pink?
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I think I am going to try and source a live pink for the next offer.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
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Re: Russian Rat Regurgitated
Is there a exotic vet you could go to? The chances of internal parasites are small since it's a cb baby, but perhaps worth ruling out. You could also get some Nutribac for reptiles. It helps out the intestinal tract. Could you reach out to the breeder to see if they have any advice for you? Don't panic. They are small but they are a smaller species to begin with. Any signs of oncoming shed? Respiratory issues? Other behavior that differs from before? Get the live pink...dust a bit of Nutribac on it. The back end of the pink so it doesn't put your snake off from grabbing it...
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0.1 Super Emperor Pinstripe Ball Python "Sunny" 0.1 Pastel Orange Dream Desert Ghost Ball Python "Luna" 0.1 Pastel Desert Ghost Ball Python "Arjanam" 0.1 Lemonblast Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Aurora" 0.1 Pastel Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Venus" 1.0 Pastel Butter Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Sirius" 1.0 Crested Gecko ( Rhacodactylus ciliatus) "Smeagol"
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I do have Nutribac. I posted on the elaphe schrenckii FB board and was advised trying live in 5 days, so that's what I'll try next with the Nutribac. Temps are perfect and he looks healthy otherwise. No signs of external parasites, no changes to enclosure, no obvious signs of shed yet - but it could be coming.
I have an exotic vet in town and that will be my next resort if he refuses live, I just worry about stressing him too much. Not sure how long such a tiny little thing can go without eating. Dec. 13 was his last consumed meal. I think because he was such a voracious eater before, and they are known for being such great eaters, the no-eating thing is really upsetting me. But I'm trying to be patient. I just worry about him being so young and small at only 13.7 grams. I would be so devastated if something happened to him.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
Dog & Cats:
1.0 Doberman Pinscher "Bulleit"; 1.0 Siamese Cat "Boudreaux"; 1.0 British Shorthair Cat "Oliver”
Goats:
"Hazelnut" & "Huckleberry"
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Re: Russian Rat Regurgitated
Originally Posted by hilabeans
I do have Nutribac. I posted on the elaphe schrenckii FB board and was advised trying live in 5 days, so that's what I'll try next with the Nutribac. Temps are perfect and he looks healthy otherwise. No signs of external parasites, no changes to enclosure, no obvious signs of shed yet - but it could be coming.
I have an exotic vet in town and that will be my next resort if he refuses live, I just worry about stressing him too much. Not sure how long such a tiny little thing can go without eating. Dec. 13 was his last consumed meal. I think because he was such a voracious eater before, and they are known for being such great eaters, the no-eating thing is really upsetting me. But I'm trying to be patient. I just worry about him being so young and small at only 13.7 grams. I would be so devastated if something happened to him.
Well, they are small to begin with, so for him, that is still in the "ok" range. He hasn't lost a huge amount by far.
If you do go the route of the vet, bring your Nutribac with you. Perhaps your vet can syringe a bit of nutribac slush into him while there. IF the vet recommends that, of course.
I'm hesitant to advise anything more drastic as of yet (like you doing the syringing at home) because at this point the stress may be worse then just a bit more patience and trying live pinks.
Don't panic to much just yet and don't beat yourself up. You are doing all you can. You have more options if the live feeding doesn't work.
One step at a time.
I'm crossing fingers and toes over here, that he will eat and get back "to normal".
Zina
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Success!!!
He took his sweet time, nearly 20 minutes, sitting near, on, under, over and around the squirming pinkie, nuzzling every nook and cranny, before slowly maneuvering his mouth around and swallowing. I thought I was going to lose my mind, but he did FINALLY eat it.
I think I'm going to wait 10 days so he hopefully gets good and hungry after this meal and then offer f/t to him from a fresh batch. The pink was dusted with a little Nutribac on his backside, so hopefully that helps settle things too.
P.S. Feeding live was absolutely dreadful and the poor thing squeaked the whole way down. I hope I never have to do it again.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
Dog & Cats:
1.0 Doberman Pinscher "Bulleit"; 1.0 Siamese Cat "Boudreaux"; 1.0 British Shorthair Cat "Oliver”
Goats:
"Hazelnut" & "Huckleberry"
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Re: Russian Rat Regurgitated
Awesome!! So happy for you I have to admit...I don't like to feed live either. For a few reasons, and rat babies are so cute, too...
However, I will do what it takes to take care of the snakes and sometimes that means feeding live. Or even to prekill.
Hopefully your baby will be on course again with frozen thawed, but sometimes it takes a couple live feedings...
I'm so glad he took it
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Re: Russian Rat Regurgitated
Originally Posted by zina10
Hopefully your baby will be on course again with frozen thawed, but sometimes it takes a couple live feedings...
Oh gosh, I hope not. But yes, will do whatever it takes...even if it's horrible. Just so happy he finally ate, the stinking brat.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
Dog & Cats:
1.0 Doberman Pinscher "Bulleit"; 1.0 Siamese Cat "Boudreaux"; 1.0 British Shorthair Cat "Oliver”
Goats:
"Hazelnut" & "Huckleberry"
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So I suppose all went well ? No regurgitation?
Zina
0.1 Super Emperor Pinstripe Ball Python "Sunny" 0.1 Pastel Orange Dream Desert Ghost Ball Python "Luna" 0.1 Pastel Desert Ghost Ball Python "Arjanam" 0.1 Lemonblast Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Aurora" 0.1 Pastel Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Venus" 1.0 Pastel Butter Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Sirius" 1.0 Crested Gecko ( Rhacodactylus ciliatus) "Smeagol"
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No regurge! Yay! He hasn't pooped yet, so that's the next watch I'm keeping, just to make sure everything looks healthy there.
I keep debating if I should offer one - or even 2 - more live feedings, just to get some more calories in him before trying to go back to f/t. As much as I hate to, they're at least a sure thing. Or I could try braining a f/t next. Bleh.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
Dog & Cats:
1.0 Doberman Pinscher "Bulleit"; 1.0 Siamese Cat "Boudreaux"; 1.0 British Shorthair Cat "Oliver”
Goats:
"Hazelnut" & "Huckleberry"
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