White Ball Pythons?

[Taystation]

Hi all!

I’m new to the forum, semi-new to snake morphs.
I currently have a banana ball python and I am looking into getting another BP.

Thing is, I am looking for white ball pythons and I’ve seen a total of like 6 different names for them; I’ve seen: blue eyed Lucy (obviously), lesser mojave, inferno ivory, super fire, super butter...

I’m just wondering what other morphs are out there that are solid white, preferably with black eyes.

[rufretic]

I love my ivory and she has black eyes. She is super yellow belly which is called ivory. Any combo with ivory is a super yellow belly combined with whatever other morph that is included, some are visually different than solid white but if your looking for solid white with black eyes, you can just stick with ivory.

[Ba11er]

As far as I know super fire is the only morph with black eyes and a red iris. I love the clean look of an all white snake , I'm impressed every time I pull mine out.

[rufretic]

This is the only pic I have of her, I guess I need to take some better ones lol




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[Taystation]

I found a beautiful juvi super mojave that is white- do you guys think it will change color as it gets older?

[Taystation]

Thank you Ba11er! Black eyes aren’t necessary, the main idea is the solid white- i just think the black on white looks so clean

[Ax01]

an all white Pied is what you're looking for!

Edit: here's my Lesser Pied gurl - solid, vibrant white and black eyes. (White Weddings also look pretty much the same, different genetics of course)

[Ladybugzcrunch]

Ivory’s have red pupils also.

[BallPythonWannaBe]

White wedding or Black Eyed Lucy

[asplundii]

Taystation,

The reason you are seeing a bunch of different names for "white" ball pythons is because there are many way/morph that make a "white" animal:

1) Ivory -- This is the homozygous, aka super form, of the Yellowbelly. Typically these have a faint yellow stripe down their back and some light grey/purple tint bordering the stripe and on their head. The colours can fade as they age but usually are still somewhat visible. If you add other morphs into the mix you can pull the colour away, as an example, I had an Ivory Butter Pastel that was solid white

2) Blue-Eyed Leucistic (BluEL) complex -- This is a group of related alleles where the homozygous or heteroallelic super forms are some type of BluEL. This group includes Daddy, Special, Phantom, Mystic, Mocha, Russo, Honey, Mojave, Bamboo, Butter, Lesser (and I am probably missing one or two others...) Some of these alleles are stronger than the others and, as such, generate a much whiter BluEL. As an example, a SuperPhantom is a more grey/pale animal with cream markings versus a SuperLesser which is all white.

3) Blak-Eyed Leucistic (BlkEL) complex -- Like the BluELs, this is a group of related alleles of varying strength but unlike the BluEL group, only a handful of the alleles will make a white snake in their homozygous or heteroallelic super form. The alleles that make for BlkELs are Fire, Sulfur, Lemonback, Sauce, Mota, DesertLemon, Flame and combinations between them. Some of these (Fire, Sulfur, etc) are prone to BlkELs that have a degree of yellow pattering to them. Other alleles in this group (e.g., Vanilla, Disco, Thunder, Lucifer, etc) generate hypomelanistic, pattern-disrupted superform when paired with any of the other alleles in this group

4) Pied variants -- Certain Pied combinations will throw all-white animals with some degree of frequency. Spider, hetBluEL, Champagne, Woma, BlkPastel/Cinny combinations are the most common combos for generating all-white Pieds.