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The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
Let's give this a try!
I've always been fascinated with these snakes and had my eye on them for a while now. I'm hoping to get a hatchling next year and thought it would be a neat idea to have a thread dedicated to these awesome snakes so we can all share our experiences and wisdom about them! I'm always surprised at how little information is documented about them so why not have the community gather together? We're all like family in a way :p
So current or old owners of Russian rat snakes feel free to share fun facts, pictures, resources,observations and care tips! Or anything you feel like sharing!
Future owners or fans share your excitement or inquiries!
Last edited by MissterDog; 11-10-2017 at 02:15 PM.
1.0 Ball Python (Mystic Potion) Tapioca
0.1 Northern Pine Snake - Impa
0.1 Russian Rat Snake (Melanistic) Kallari (RIP)
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Re: The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
I love Russian Rats! I'll probably never have one because I have limited space and a list of snakes I want to fill it up but I would love to have one someday! They seem like the best all around cloubrid to me with easy care, great personality and a larger size. (I like that although some people might not)
"It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live"
-J.K Rowling Sorcerer's Stone
Long time no see, back at it again in my white vans.
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the first time i saw a Russian Rat snake was @redshepard's photos of her hatchling. i'm new to colubrids so i gave "Russian Rat snake" a quick google and i could not BELIEVE the color change!!! they are absolutely STUNNING as adults! i'd love to have another colubrid some day, and with all the hype around here it will probably end up being a Russian Rat snake.
4.4 ball python
1.0 Albino ✮ 0.1 Coral Glow ✮ 0.1 Super Cinnamon paradox ✮ 1.0 Piebald ✮ 0.1 Pastel Enchi Leopard het Piebald ✮ 1.0 Coral Glow het Piebald ✮
1.0 corn snake
1.0 Hypo ✮
1.0 crested gecko
0.1 ???? ✮
0.1 cat
0.1 Maine Coon mix ✮
0.1 human ✌︎
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Re: The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
the first time i saw a Russian Rat snake was @redshepard's photos of her hatchling. i'm new to colubrids so i gave "Russian Rat snake" a quick google and i could not BELIEVE the color change!!! they are absolutely STUNNING as adults! i'd love to have another colubrid some day, and with all the hype around here it will probably end up being a Russian Rat snake.
They really are amazing creatures with big personalities! Awesome vision snakes! I first fell in love when I would read Zina's posts and rainbowsnake's Levi on tumblr. There was a moment I half considered getting one before a ball python but I knew the moment I first held a bp I knew there was no going back. Especially with Tapioca being love at first sight <3
But now it seems I'm able to have both! Yay!
I'm already on my breeder's waiting list for a Russian rattie and hoping for a successful clutch next year! Fingers crossed!
Last edited by MissterDog; 11-10-2017 at 02:33 PM.
1.0 Ball Python (Mystic Potion) Tapioca
0.1 Northern Pine Snake - Impa
0.1 Russian Rat Snake (Melanistic) Kallari (RIP)
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Re: The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
Originally Posted by MissterDog
I'm already on my breeder's waiting list for a Russian rattie and hoping for a successful clutch next year! Fingers crossed!
my fingers are crossed for you! that's so exciting!!!
4.4 ball python
1.0 Albino ✮ 0.1 Coral Glow ✮ 0.1 Super Cinnamon paradox ✮ 1.0 Piebald ✮ 0.1 Pastel Enchi Leopard het Piebald ✮ 1.0 Coral Glow het Piebald ✮
1.0 corn snake
1.0 Hypo ✮
1.0 crested gecko
0.1 ???? ✮
0.1 cat
0.1 Maine Coon mix ✮
0.1 human ✌︎
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Re: The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
YAY! I'm so glad you started this thread. We just got Bonsai a week ago and he is our FIRST SNAKE EVER. It was a total drag doing research because there is painfully little out there. But what there is out there made them sound freakin' awesome, so we decided to take the plunge. I would have killed to have a comprehensive thread on them from a ton of different owners and their experiences, so this will be great for future owners.
My guys is a hatchling and is the clutch mate of @redshepherd's Jack.
I am learning as I go, but first and foremost they have an irresistible, unsure of the scientific term, so we'll call it "smooch face".
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Last edited by hilabeans; 11-10-2017 at 02:38 PM.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
Dog & Cats:
1.0 Doberman Pinscher "Bulleit"; 1.0 Siamese Cat "Boudreaux"; 1.0 British Shorthair Cat "Oliver”
Goats:
"Hazelnut" & "Huckleberry"
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Re: The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
Originally Posted by hilabeans
YAY! I'm so glad you started this thread. We just got Bonsai a week ago and he is our FIRST SNAKE EVER. It was a total drag doing research because there is painfully little out there. But what there is out there made them sound freakin' awesome, so we decided to take the plunge. I would have killed to have a comprehensive thread on them from a ton of different owners and their experiences, so this will be great for future owners.
My guys is a hatchling and is the clutch mate of @redshepherd's Jack.
I am learning as I go, but first and foremost they have an irresistible, unsure of the scientific term, so we'll call it "smooch face".
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Haha you sure that face isn't the Magnum?
I was very surprised to learn how simple their husbandry needs are compared to a ball python! Ah yes I remember you posting somewhere going for a hatchling shortly after redshepherd got Jack! Prior to that didn't Zerkle confuse your address with hers?
1.0 Ball Python (Mystic Potion) Tapioca
0.1 Northern Pine Snake - Impa
0.1 Russian Rat Snake (Melanistic) Kallari (RIP)
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Re: The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
Originally Posted by MissterDog
Haha you sure that face isn't the Magnum?
I was very surprised to learn how simple their husbandry needs are compared to a ball python! Ah yes I remember you posting somewhere going for a hatchling shortly after redshepherd got Jack! Prior to that didn't Zerkle confuse your address with hers?
YES - Magnum! Or is it Blue Steel? hehe
Zerkle's cracked me up because they couldn't wait to send me redshepherd's snake, despite me repeatedly telling them I hadn't ordered one. And then when I did purchase one a week later - it took them forever to answer my questions, or confirm shipment, or send me tracking. It was like pulling teeth! But I imagine the life of a big breeder can be chaotic, so it's all good!
Last edited by hilabeans; 11-10-2017 at 03:30 PM.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
Dog & Cats:
1.0 Doberman Pinscher "Bulleit"; 1.0 Siamese Cat "Boudreaux"; 1.0 British Shorthair Cat "Oliver”
Goats:
"Hazelnut" & "Huckleberry"
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I also noticed humidity has been a bit of a vague topic in care sheets. Usually it seems like it's not kept track of or has a given range of 40-60%
Or it's not really a concern until they are in shed, but what sort of humidity range would be a target to ensure they have a successful shed?
Last edited by MissterDog; 11-12-2017 at 01:50 PM.
1.0 Ball Python (Mystic Potion) Tapioca
0.1 Northern Pine Snake - Impa
0.1 Russian Rat Snake (Melanistic) Kallari (RIP)
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Re: The Russian Rat Snake/Elaphe Schrenckii Thread!
Originally Posted by MissterDog
I also noticed humidity has been a bit of a vague topic in care sheets. Usually it seems like it's not kept track of or has a given range of 40-60%
Or it's not really a concern until they are in shed, but what sort of humidity range would be a target to ensure they have a successful shed?
Ok, Bonsai just completed his first shed with me and it was perfect. He sequestered himself in his hide for nearly 2 weeks prior to shed (insert new-mom-standard-obsessive-worry-about-this-change-in-behavior here).
Once he went blue I knew we were on our way to a shed. His eyes cleared about 3 days before he shed. I did nothing to manage his humidity during this time, except to observe it as it was so I could make a mental note if the shed came out well and document it here.
During the approx. two weeks of his shed cycle, humidity fluctuated naturally between 62%-65%. He's in a sterilite tub and has a med size water dish. But that's about it. Nothing was done special to keep humidity in a certain range and his shed was flawless. Easy peasy!
ETA: I continued to offer food throughout, even while blue, and he took every time like a champ.
Last edited by hilabeans; 11-17-2017 at 11:20 AM.
1.0 Lesser Mojave Ball Python "Neptune"; 1.0 Western Hognose "Murray"
Lizards:
1.0 Bearded Dragon "Nigel"
Tarantulas:
0.1 G. Rosea "Charlotte"; 0.1 B. Albopilosum "Matilda"; 0.1 C. Versicolor "Bijou"; 1.0 B. Boehmei "Lightening McQueen"
Inverts:
1.0 Emperor Scorpion "Boba"
Dog & Cats:
1.0 Doberman Pinscher "Bulleit"; 1.0 Siamese Cat "Boudreaux"; 1.0 British Shorthair Cat "Oliver”
Goats:
"Hazelnut" & "Huckleberry"
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