Orange Dream: Does it age well?

[rufretic]

Thanks for your responses and the great pics! You guys have beautiful animals.

Enchi is one of my favorite genes, as well as fire. My first breeding project is centered around hypo, with a hypo calico female and a hypo enchi pastel kingpin female. I'm trying to figure out what genes I want in a male and OD is on my list... Haven't seen any pics of OD hypos though, so not sure about the combination. I like anything that brightens colors and reduces pattern though, so I'm thinking it might be a good combination.

If your looking to make brighter snakes you should be looking into working with desert ghost. It will take any morph you work with to the next level. I eventually plan to make OD desert ghost along with a bunch of other combos. Any morph or combo of morphs will be greatly improved by adding desert ghost, by far the best enhancer morph!

[Albert Clark]

If your looking to make brighter snakes you should be looking into working with desert ghost. It will take any morph you work with to the next level. I eventually plan to make OD desert ghost along with a bunch of other combos. Any morph or combo of morphs will be greatly improved by adding desert ghost, by far the best enhancer morph!

I definitely agree with your outlook ruf! I want desert ghost also but for now gonna stick with the OD pied project and super OD for now.

[artgecko]

If your looking to make brighter snakes you should be looking into working with desert ghost. It will take any morph you work with to the next level. I eventually plan to make OD desert ghost along with a bunch of other combos. Any morph or combo of morphs will be greatly improved by adding desert ghost, by far the best enhancer morph!

I do intend to get into DG eventually... I wanted to grow out my hypo project animals, breed them, and then use those funds to purchase some DG animals. I agree with you about DG, it is the ultimate brightening gene.... Now, if I happen to come across a male DG that happens to be het hypo, well then, I might have to change my plans.

[asplundii]

OD is interesting in that it seems to age well when combined with the right morphs but on its own, at least from what I’ve seen, the orange color does not hold up well. The few adults I’ve seen have had beautiful clean patterns but had lost that bright orange coloring that you see when they are young.

Ruf is correct about the single gene, as they age they mostly end up looking like a really nice clean normal

As for what morphs help them retain the color, enchi is the best that I’ve seen...

Enchi is certainly one of the better morphs to combo with to help retain the colour into adulthood but even then the adults I have seen of this combo still end up a bit muted. Your other top candidates are Spider, Fire and anything in the YB group. Also, depending on the mix, Pastel can do some really nice things (the flip side being that in the wrong mix, Pastel swamps out the OD.) As a general rule of thumb, the dark morphs and the hetBluEL group do not go that well with OD, with some exceptions

I have OD Pastel YB (600g), Butter OD Pastel Woma YB (600g) and Butter Enchi OD Pastel YB (1100g) and they are all very bright. And I had an Enchi OD YB that went to live with a friend that was retina-burning

You can hardly tell a yellow belly from a normal when it's on it's own

This is the third or fourth time I have seen this comment from you and I find it odd. YB is an established incomplete-dominant trait and it is not at all difficult to identify

I'm thinking that there are many different lines of yellow belly with slight differences.

That there are multiple lines of YB is an established fact -- RDR's Goblin, NERDs Bling, Seigel's OB, the dozen or so independently imported WCs that come in every year... And yes, each might have a slightly different expression pattern but they are all pretty obviously YBs