Scaleless het?

[SnekDude]

Just wondering if this is anything special or if someone has some input. This is my little pied baby; I love her dearly.

Mainly this separated scale at the vent that I have never seen split before.

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[asplundii]

Split vent scales are not at all uncommon, I have dozens of animals with them. Unless you spent a few thousand dollars on her I doubt that she is a Scalelesshead.

[SnekDude]

No she was a rescue, prev. owner sold her to me with lots of bite marks and no genetic info. She has a weird spot on her head also

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[BluuWolf]

"Scaleless het" Is what scaleless head is. A few scales missing from the animals head and the super form is a fully scaleless animal.

As for this I'm not quite sure what you're referring to? The scales and vent look normal to me lol

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[AbsoluteApril]

No she was a rescue, prev. owner sold her to me with lots of bite marks and no genetic info. She has a weird spot on her head also

the missing scales on the top of the head are probably from an old bite wound then

[cchardwick]

I'm not sure, post a better photo of the head... Scaleless head is a bit tricky, I've seen some that look almost normal selling as scaleless head, to me that looks like a real scaleless head. There are more or less amounts of expression, the one I have has a bald head, others you can hardly tell. It's possible an early breeder made a mistake and sold a scaleless head as a normal and it worked it's way into this pied. Personally I'd pair it up with a male scaleless head if you can find or borrow one in the off season, you may get some high dollar scaleless animals! I have a male scaleless head but he is breeding several females at the moment LOL. Prices have come down a lot, even the big breeders are selling male scaleless head normals for $1,500. Next year they will probably go a bit lower, in a few years they will be within reach of everyone. Lots of tables at NARBC have worked scaleless head into their snakes, even saw a few totally scaleless ball pythons.

By the way, if you feed live please check on the animals in about five minutes (snake + rat) to prevent snake damage. I'm trying live feedings now, all my snakes are finally eating, found out the hard way that 20 minutes with a rat is too long. Had a few small bite marks on one of my pied females... Once a rat figures it out and becomes defensive it's better to euthanize that rat and use it for a frozen thawed feeding the next time, I never use an uneaten live feeder more than once.

[cchardwick]

Speaking of scaleless heads, check out this female normal scaleless head selling on Morphmarket for $2,000. Check out the head shot I zoomed in on, I can't see it? Where's the scaleless head? This is what I'm talking about, even I need more experience figuring this out...

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[Stewart_Reptiles]

What you see on the head is "scar" tissue missing scales likely due to head rubbing, very different than scaleless head

While Scaleless Head Pied have been produced recently it will run you about 5K

[SnekDude]

I'm not sure, post a better photo of the head... Scaleless head is a bit tricky, I've seen some that look almost normal selling as scaleless head, to me that looks like a real scaleless head. There are more or less amounts of expression, the one I have has a bald head, others you can hardly tell. It's possible an early breeder made a mistake and sold a scaleless head as a normal and it worked it's way into this pied. Personally I'd pair it up with a male scaleless head if you can find or borrow one in the off season, you may get some high dollar scaleless animals! I have a male scaleless head but he is breeding several females at the moment LOL. Prices have come down a lot, even the big breeders are selling male scaleless head normals for $1,500. Next year they will probably go a bit lower, in a few years they will be within reach of everyone. Lots of tables at NARBC have worked scaleless head into their snakes, even saw a few totally scaleless ball pythons.

By the way, if you feed live please check on the animals in about five minutes (snake + rat) to prevent snake damage. I'm trying live feedings now, all my snakes are finally eating, found out the hard way that 20 minutes with a rat is too long. Had a few small bite marks on one of my pied females... Once a rat figures it out and becomes defensive it's better to euthanize that rat and use it for a frozen thawed feeding the next time, I never use an uneaten live feeder more than once.

I only feed live, not only do I enjoy it more but I firmly believe the snake gets more natural exercise as opposed to many of these snakes you see eating off a stick and barely using any energy to constrict.
That being said: non pinky will not be left in an enclosure for longer than 15 min and never unattended as I film all my feedings for extra record.

I was afraid the marks on her head was scarring but I have never seen anything like it before. She is nearing shed and and all these little red marks are showing up


She is very calm and the moment and cooperated for some clear pictures.

All my females are so gentle while in blue and never abnormally skittish also.
Anyone else have this experience?


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[SnekDude]

I only feed live, not only do I enjoy it more but I firmly believe the snake gets more natural exercise as opposed to many of these snakes you see eating off a stick and barely using any energy to constrict.
That being said: non pinky will not be left in an enclosure for longer than 15 min and never unattended as I film all my feedings for extra record.

I was afraid the marks on her head was scarring but I have never seen anything like it before. She is nearing shed and and all these little red marks are showing up


She is very calm and the moment and cooperated for some clear pictures.

All my females are so gentle while in blue and never abnormally skittish also.
Anyone else have this experience?


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Ugh I mean if that is scarring it looks SO deep and like it could have been very painful.

This girl let's me hold her head and is usually pretty calm when I give her a thorough look over; crease spreading, lip, cheek and jaw checks for mites etc.

Which the calmness and trust I hope is a sign that she wasn't intentionally mistreated by previous owner.

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