Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 2,787

1 members and 2,786 guests
Most users ever online was 6,337, 01-24-2020 at 04:30 AM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,078
Threads: 248,524
Posts: 2,568,615
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, RaginBull
Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Registered User Ksauber's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-09-2017
    Posts
    11
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts

    Young snake missed strike, now uninterested in food

    I just got 2 new BP's on Sunday and tried to feed them yesterday. Previously both were eating live rat crawlers. I want to feed f/t to them so I figured I'd give it a try. Atlas (male pied) took a few minutes to take the f/t large mouse, but once he took it he ate it quickly without issue. Oblina (female spider het pied) also took a few minutes to figure out the mouse was food, but when she did, she struck at it, and missed. After the miss, she was no longer interested. I know, being a spider she could have issues with aim, so I wasn't moving the mouse much. Also, she dosen' t have a noticeable wobble, so I didn't think it would be much of an issue.

    I have had BP's miss before, but they always just try again. I have never had one lose interest. It's like her pride was hurt lol. Should I try feeding again to tonight? I would try with live, but given that she went for the f/t, I don't know if the food is the problem. Opinions?

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

  2. #2
    BPnet Veteran Ax01's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-14-2015
    Location
    Emerald City
    Posts
    6,183
    Thanks
    2,581
    Thanked 6,152 Times in 3,380 Posts
    it coulda been a defensive strike. did she miss completely or did she hit the f/t with her strike and just didn't coil? personally i like to give new BP's more time to settle in before attempting to feed. if they're healthy, they're not gonna starve. IMO i would wait a few days or even the next feeding day to keep the two new BP's on the same schedule.
    RIP Mamba
    ----------------

    Wicked ones now on IG & FB!6292

  3. #3
    Registered User Ksauber's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-09-2017
    Posts
    11
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts

    Re: Young snake missed strike, now uninterested in food

    She hit it but just barely. Like... grazed it with the side of her face. The only BP's I have worked with (at a rescue) have always been so underfed, so I'm used to trying to get food in them sooner rather than later.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

  4. #4
    Registered User hollowlaughter's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-06-2017
    Location
    WI, USA
    Posts
    379
    Thanks
    131
    Thanked 245 Times in 174 Posts
    Images: 8
    If it's a spider, a technique I've heard is heating the head with a blow dryer (til it's warm to touch), turn off the lights, offer on tongs. They seem to be more accurate with their heat pit IR than eyesight; thus removing as much possibility of misses followed by fear refusals.
    Last edited by hollowlaughter; 10-11-2017 at 05:45 PM.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to hollowlaughter For This Useful Post:

    Zincubus (10-12-2017)

  6. #5
    Registered User Ksauber's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-09-2017
    Posts
    11
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts

    Re: Young snake missed strike, now uninterested in food

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowlaughter View Post
    If it's a spider, a technique I've heard is heating the head with a blow dryer (til it's warm to touch), turn off the lights, offer on tongs. They seem to be more accurate with their heat pit IR than eyesight; thus removing as much possibility of misses followed by fear refusals.
    That's exactly what I did lol. Hopefully she gets it next time.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

  7. #6
    BPnet Veteran BluuWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-08-2017
    Posts
    564
    Thanks
    143
    Thanked 395 Times in 276 Posts

    Re: Young snake missed strike, now uninterested in food

    Quote Originally Posted by Ksauber View Post
    I just got 2 new BP's on Sunday and tried to feed them yesterday. Previously both were eating live rat crawlers. I want to feed f/t to them so I figured I'd give it a try. Atlas (male pied) took a few minutes to take the f/t large mouse, but once he took it he ate it quickly without issue. Oblina (female spider het pied) also took a few minutes to figure out the mouse was food, but when she did, she struck at it, and missed. After the miss, she was no longer interested. I know, being a spider she could have issues with aim, so I wasn't moving the mouse much. Also, she dosen' t have a noticeable wobble, so I didn't think it would be much of an issue.

    I have had BP's miss before, but they always just try again. I have never had one lose interest. It's like her pride was hurt lol. Should I try feeding again to tonight? I would try with live, but given that she went for the f/t, I don't know if the food is the problem. Opinions?

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Mine have done the same thing before, it's not just a spider thing. Spiders do tend to miss but honestly my boy without any spider misses more then my girl with lol. When they strike and loose insterest just take it and heat it up again then try again and most of the time they will try again. If not then just leave it in there for them and see if they want it.

    If was a defensive strike though this wouldn't work lol. When she struck at it did she hold her head out for a sec before coming back or was it just one quick motion. In my experience when they are striking for food and miss they will keep their head outstreached for a sec before pulling back but if it was defensive they pull away real fast

    Sent from my LG-D690 using Tapatalk

  8. #7
    BPnet Royalty Zincubus's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-22-2011
    Posts
    6,949
    Thanks
    2,510
    Thanked 4,897 Times in 2,992 Posts

    Re: Young snake missed strike, now uninterested in food

    Quote Originally Posted by Ksauber View Post
    That's exactly what I did lol. Hopefully she gets it next time.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Hi .. next time just repeat the heating with hairdryer and offering instantly, repeat as many times as necessary ...


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro




  9. #8
    BPnet Veteran Starscream's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-29-2017
    Location
    Missouri
    Posts
    957
    Thanks
    1,194
    Thanked 1,206 Times in 602 Posts
    Images: 1
    You also mention in another thread that she shed for you recently after this post -- that could very well be why she refused/ was more defensive than interested. Some snakes don't like to eat while in shed, or it could be the combo of new home and in shed. Still, you dont want to encourage refusals, so waiting 5 days to a week is probably a good idea.
    0.1 Red Axanthic P. regius | Mazikeen
    0.1
    E. climacophora | Lan Fan
    0.1
    C. paulsoni | Inej


  10. #9
    Registered User Ksauber's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-09-2017
    Posts
    11
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts

    Re: Young snake missed strike, now uninterested in food

    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    You also mention in another thread that she shed for you recently after this post -- that could very well be why she refused/ was more defensive than interested. Some snakes don't like to eat while in shed, or it could be the combo of new home and in shed. Still, you dont want to encourage refusals, so waiting 5 days to a week is probably a good idea.
    Yeah that's what I thought. I am going to try again in 5 days and see how it goes.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1