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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Behira managed to poop and pee in one water bowl and pee in the in other one. Had some fun disinfecting and cleaning those.

    She weighed in at 920G tonight, dry. Growing nicely.

    Also got a good picture. She was very much in a light phase tonight. Usually has some dark, if not a lot of dark, especially on her face lately. Nice to see the change.

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    My buddy came over today. He lives about 3 hours away and hasn't been here since the week after I got Behira (10-17). Needless to say, he likes the reptiles, and was amazed and how much the little lady has grown.

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    Dan with Behira today - 6-3-18 - Behira at 920G

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Got a few good shots of me and Behira after she was a reptile ambassador today. She, along with Shayna, Figment, Cleo, and Frank, helped turn two very anxious and nervous and not too reptile friendly young women, into reptile fans! For good measure, I included one shot of the young ladies with Behira.

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Another look how she's growing post!

    First picture is her after her first shed with us (10-17).

    Second picture is her in the same container today (6-18). I think I need a new container to hold her in when I clean her tank!



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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Yep definitely increased in girth and length looking at them comparison pics, there's still a bit more room in there for a while,it's never for long time while your cleaning is it

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Quote Originally Posted by richardhind1972 View Post
    Yep definitely increased in girth and length looking at them comparison pics, there's still a bit more room in there for a while,it's never for long time while your cleaning is it

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    Yeah. She went from about 450g to about 940g from picture one to picture two.

    I still have her on small rats every two weeks. They are 70-90g. Just opened a new bag and most are in the 70-85g range. That should slow her a bit. Lol. Slow grown is where itís at.

    I will not switch to mediums (and every 3 weeks) until she can very easily take one. So it will be a bit.

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Absolutely stunning. I've enjoyed seeing how Behira has progressed.

    Question on size since I've been researching getting my 1st BOA for the past 6 months. I think I would like to stick to a BOA at the same size as Behira (at least in terms of thickness). Would that put me in the category of a Dwarf Boa or are there male BCIs that would stay about this size. It would be great to see some adults in person to get an visual appreciation how big a dwarf, BCI and a BCC can get. I've been to several Repticons but unfortunately it's only ever babies for sale and I don't want to be that sucker who is told this Boa will only ever get 5 feet and then x years later it's 10 feet

    Do you expect to keep her on rats the rest of her life or will you have to go bigger?

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Quote Originally Posted by ckuhn003 View Post
    Absolutely stunning. I've enjoyed seeing how Behira has progressed.

    Question on size since I've been researching getting my 1st BOA for the past 6 months. I think I would like to stick to a BOA at the same size as Behira (at least in terms of thickness). Would that put me in the category of a Dwarf Boa or are there male BCIs that would stay about this size. It would be great to see some adults in person to get an visual appreciation how big a dwarf, BCI and a BCC can get. I've been to several Repticons but unfortunately it's only ever babies for sale and I don't want to be that sucker who is told this Boa will only ever get 5 feet and then x years later it's 10 feet

    Do you expect to keep her on rats the rest of her life or will you have to go bigger?
    There are some really nice locality boas that stay around 5ft and some of the dwarf locality like a Mexican tarahumara boas that stay around 4ft as adults ,
    My hypo Nicaraguan is 3 this weekend and is just shy of 5ft, she's fed small rats every two weeks as this locality is not a girthy boa she will probably end up on mediums every 3 eeks eventually, her mum was about the same size as her , this is her tonight on my arm

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Quote Originally Posted by ckuhn003 View Post
    Absolutely stunning. I've enjoyed seeing how Behira has progressed.

    Question on size since I've been researching getting my 1st BOA for the past 6 months. I think I would like to stick to a BOA at the same size as Behira (at least in terms of thickness). Would that put me in the category of a Dwarf Boa or are there male BCIs that would stay about this size. It would be great to see some adults in person to get an visual appreciation how big a dwarf, BCI and a BCC can get. I've been to several Repticons but unfortunately it's only ever babies for sale and I don't want to be that sucker who is told this Boa will only ever get 5 feet and then x years later it's 10 feet

    Do you expect to keep her on rats the rest of her life or will you have to go bigger?
    To be safe, I would stay with locality dwarf boas, like Richardhind1972 said.

    They stay smaller than a BCI.

    To be clear, Behira is a BCI. BCC's tend to be larger, but 99% of the morphs for sale are BCI's or dwarf boas. True BCC's are labeled as such and by locality and if you are getting from a reputable breeder, they should know the difference.

    I can't comment on the dwarf boas beyond what Richardhind1972 said, but from what I know, they do stay small, much smaller than BCI's.

    Figure a male BCI will be 5-6FT on average - maybe 7FT, but generally weigh 5-8 pounds (depending on length and girth, etc. and they can be heavier - giving averages here). A female BCI will average 6-7FT+ and be much heavier bodied. A healthy adult female at 7FT is closer to 12-15 pounds or more. 20-25 pounds is not out of the question, but again, figure 15-20 pounds give or take.

    If you google male and female BCI - you will see images of them breeding or next to each other. The females are 2X the size of the males often.

    Now, keep in mind, Behira is just over 2 pounds now. She has a lot of growing to do.

    She eats small rats now (70-90G). I expect to feed large rats when she is full grown (300-400G tops). Bigger rats are too fatty and not good for her. Also, Boa metabolisms are really slow, especially as adults, and a 7,000G BCI will be able to sustain weight on a 300G rat every 3-5 weeks. If I need to feed every 3-4, but smaller meals, I will likely do that versus moving up to Rabbits, etc. which are harder for me to get.

    A lean, healthy, BCI is much better than a heavy/overweight BCI. A healthy BCI should live 20-30 years, vs. easily half that or less for a heavy BCI or one that was grown too fast.

    I can't speak to the temperament of the dwarf species, but BCI's in general, and especially if handled when young and consistently as adults, are usually super docile. They do have very strong food responses, so I recommend hook training any boa that's going to be over 5FT for sure. However, once the hook touches Behira and she lets me pick her up. She's a total sweetheart. Tamest, most predictable, bravest, and most docile, snake I have. She also take redirection really well and is very compliant.

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    Re: Behira - 2016 Female Ivory Ghost - First BCI

    Quote Originally Posted by dakski View Post
    Another look how she's growing post!

    First picture is her after her first shed with us (10-17).

    Second picture is her in the same container today (6-18). I think I need a new container to hold her in when I clean her tank!



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    Looks good. She has grown a lot.

    I generally can leave the boas unattended while cleaning their cages. The BP and retic, not a chance. I turn my head and Dottie is halfway across the room cruising around and Caesar is busy trying to find something to break. Luckily, Pat is pretty happy on a perch so i can just prop it up somewhere and he is happy lol.
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