Help. I have a rescue but unsure on the genetics.

[Pezz]

Like others have said, in the first photo the washed out color looks lesser/butter but in the other two photos (which I assume are closer to actual colors) it does look caramel.

Actually the first is closer to her colors. The less lighting and shadows in the 2nd and 3rd exaggerated the darker paterning. She's so light that at first i suspected she had ghost. I've been able to rule that out after a shed, and as I've said to others I've thoroughly examined her eyes and they have no signs of albinoism ruling out a caramel. The possibility of an ultramel still exists.

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[cchardwick]

Personally I would not breed that snake unless you know for sure what the genetics are. You may figure out it's recessive or co-dom by breeding but you wont really know if it's caramel, ultramel, a new type of morph, etc... you may mislead people that buy the babies. I'm guessing that's why big breeders can get a better price for their snakes, the genetics are guaranteed, they don't mess around with breeding snakes with unknown genetics and then guessing. Probably why it was passed on as a 'rescue'. I'd start with the person you got it from, ask them where they got it from and trace it back, see if you can track it down. If it came from a big chain pet store you may be able to find the breeder that sells to them and ask the breeder. That's a good looking snake though, and a great size for breeding!

[asplundii]

This animal is a Lesser (or Butter, no difference other than the name). There is absolutely no doubt.

[Pezz]

Personally I would not breed that snake unless you know for sure what the genetics are. You may figure out it's recessive or co-dom by breeding but you wont really know if it's caramel, ultramel, a new type of morph, etc... you may mislead people that buy the babies. I'm guessing that's why big breeders can get a better price for their snakes, the genetics are guaranteed, they don't mess around with breeding snakes with unknown genetics and then guessing. Probably why it was passed on as a 'rescue'. I'd start with the person you got it from, ask them where they got it from and trace it back, see if you can track it down. If it came from a big chain pet store you may be able to find the breeder that sells to them and ask the breeder. That's a good looking snake though, and a great size for breeding!

Was a rescue because her original owner lost their house to the wildfires that rocked B.C this year. That's why i am unable to get a hold of him to trace the line.

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[AbsoluteApril]

Actually the first is closer to her colors. The less lighting and shadows in the 2nd and 3rd exaggerated the darker paterning.

Ahh okay then yes, lesser/butter

[Pezz]

Quick update. Got hold of the original owner traced her back to the breeder Marcus Jayne. She's a lesser from the Ralph Davis line.

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[Chinnamasta]

I agree with caramel. Very beautiful!

[Pezz]

I agree with caramel. Very beautiful!

Tracked her back to the breeder. She's a lesser from the Ralph Davis line.

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