Trying to get glass doors in this, but having problems.

[Sunnieskys]

I think it's a great idea...sans the cedar. Brilliant actually!

[Kinstrome]

Sorry, don't know how to edit

Most softwoods are not good for snakes which include Pine and Cedar. It's not the wood itself, its the phenols or oils in the wood. Kiln dried pine is fine for example. You could probably use a sealer and be fine but personally i wouldnt chance it.

Why does it have to be a piece of furniture? Better off with a PVC cage.

I didn't see this when I posted last time. I wanted to elaborate on what I mean by PVC liner. It's sold as a wide sheet of PVC that's something like 3mm thick. I would be caulking any and all jointed areas with silicone if I did it. However, for peace of mind, I think it's worth looking into alternatives so I don't put a bunch of work into something that turns out to be useless.

I didn't know about purely PVC-made structures, but I doubt I could build them. If I go that route, though, is there any good tutorial for how to do it?

Thanks again.

[Kinstrome]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019P...cYL&ref=plSrch

I've heard great things about this. Would this be enough to keep out the cedar toxins? Because it's supposedly nontoxic.

[Sunnieskys]

I wouldn't. It's chemicals that dry. That's me though...

[jmcrook]

As cool as that would look as an enclosure I think for the cost of what you'll spend trying to make that closet work, you could buy a pvc or similar plastic enclosure that will do exactly what you need it to. That's my opinion anyway


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[Kinstrome]

Unfortunately, I'd already bought a lot of materials specific to this closet, so that I don't think I would be saving much at this point going for PVC cages. I will still consider it, though. I don't want to endanger my BP.

Would a discreet fan help circulate out the things that could harm the snake? I don't think it would make or break it, but if there's only a little bit of the cedar oil/pollutants getting into the vivarium, I wonder if a fan wouldn't help get it out. I had seen someone suggest doing it when he made a vivarium for frogs.

[Kinstrome]

Still haven't figured out how to edit previous posts, so sorry for double-posting.

I would assume, since you would be sealing it anyways, it should not cause any problems.

I have heard that there are supposively strong toxic oils in pine (hence, why you should not use it for reptiles or rodents in bedding) which I can understand more with a shredded product, but not as much with a plywood. I was always curious about it though, because I used pine with rodents for years without issues.

Also, Wes, the redwood thing is new to me. Clear me up on this?

I don't think OFRD_GRL is talking about using wood

in the enclosure.

Now I don't know much, but if the wood was sealed and no part of the snake would come in contact with the actual wood, I don't think the kind of wood would really matter, as none of the oils would be able to leak out once sealed.

These are a couple of people who said that thoroughly sealing the wood would probably keep it safe. I know I sound stubborn, and I must sound like I just want confirmation of what I already want to do, but I've put a lot of planning and money into making this closet work, so that I'm looking for ways to really make it work. I have nothing against PVC/melamine enclosures, though, and if it's too risky I'll defer to your advice and get one.

[jmcrook]

Personally I wouldn't risk it. I mean it could turn out fine or you could end up with a dead snake. Only one way to be sure but I wouldn't risk the animal's life to find out


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[Kinstrome]

Okay, I understand.

Is there a recommended place to buy good PVC reptile enclosures? I'm betting it's easier to buy one than make one.

[jmcrook]

Wasn't trying to come down on you about it, just my opinion.
Having said that I'm a big fan of Animal Plastics enclosures, apcages.com. Many folks go with the T8 for ball pythons but some prefer something taller. Here's a really great thread on how to set them up. https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-With-Pictures!
AP isn't the end all plastic cage manufacturer but I like their products and they're a pretty good value depending on which model cage you get.



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