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    Re: Mazikeen progression thread

    That's so great to see the Royal / Ball python climbing ( not to mention clever - how do you upload videos ?)

    I've been banging on for years that Royals/Balls love climbing and will spend every evening slithering through branches ( free from local woods ) and cheap plastic / silk foliage bought from pound/ dollar shops !



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    If you have Youtube's app on your phone you can upload them there. It took me a while to find the exact button to push because it's not 100% self explanatory 8/. I circled the button here (honestly didn't even NOTICE it until i did a google search on HOW). After that it presents you with the option of either making a new video or selecting one you've already recorded.



    ...... don't judge my love of the mcelroys....

    And yeah, when maze isn't hiding she's climbing! Tol gurl!
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    Got some pictures of the poor blue baby. She's apparently a really obvious shedder. I'm just really blind lol.



    Time to leave her alone for a few days!

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    Precious little cinamon bun! I love seeing updates of her <3
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    Re: Mazikeen progression thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    That's so great to see the Royal / Ball python climbing ( not to mention clever - how do you upload videos ?)

    I've been banging on for years that Royals/Balls love climbing and will spend every evening slithering through branches ( free from local woods ) and cheap plastic / silk foliage bought from pound/ dollar shops !



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    Zinc, please show me a voluntarily climbing 3000 gram+ female and I promise I will stop contesting you on this. I once saw a horse with buggy attached climb a tree (for real). It doesn't make them arboreal.
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    Re: Mazikeen progression thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    I once saw a horse with buggy attached climb a tree (for real).
    Omg. Okay I wanna talk about this. I cannot even picture this in my head.
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    Re: Mazikeen progression thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    Zinc, please show me a voluntarily climbing 3000 gram+ female and I promise I will stop contesting you on this. I once saw a horse with buggy attached climb a tree (for real). It doesn't make them arboreal.
    Not meaning to encourage a debate or get TOO off topic but to be fair, aren't females (specifically breeding ones) less likely to climb than males since they don't have the need to roam the same way males do? Especially during breeding season?

    Not saying they are arboreal of course, because I know they're not, but I think if presented with the option some do take the opportunity to try some modest climbing, but is heavily dependent on the individual bp. It could be that Little miss Mazikeen is an exception to the rule, but it probably helps that Starscream did a good job providing a secure climb set-up that she has no problem using it on her own, and possibly even when she gets older/weighs more.
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    Re: Mazikeen progression thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MissterDog View Post
    Not meaning to encourage a debate or get TOO off topic but to be fair, aren't females (specifically breeding ones) less likely to climb than males since they don't have the need to roam the same way males do? Especially during breeding season?

    Not saying they are arboreal of course, because I know they're not, but I think if presented with the option some do take the opportunity to try some modest climbing, but is heavily dependent on the individual bp. It could be that Little miss Mazikeen is an exception to the rule, but it probably helps that Starscream did a good job providing a secure climb set-up that she has no problem using it on her own, and possibly even when she gets older/weighs more.
    My opinion is the following. Almost all young ball pythons will climb. Some smaller males will continue to climb into adulthood.

    I base this on two things. My own personal observations of my not small collection, and the following study http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...50009809386744

    Honestly I don't care if people put climbing stuff in with their animals. My reservation with advising it is that the higher the enclosure gets, the harder it is to regulate the environment which for new keepers tends to be one of the more difficult things to do. And I will never advise putting something from outside in a cage with any animal.
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    Re: Mazikeen progression thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    My opinion is the following. Almost all young ball pythons will climb. Some smaller males will continue to climb into adulthood.

    I base this on two things. My own personal observations of my not small collection, and the following study http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...50009809386744

    Honestly I don't care if people put climbing stuff in with their animals. My reservation with advising it is that the higher the enclosure gets, the harder it is to regulate the environment which for new keepers tends to be one of the more difficult things to do. And I will never advise putting something from outside in a cage with any animal.
    Heh I was actually thinking about the same study when I replied! I will fully admit my opinions are purely based on observations and readings, so I have yet to witness first hand experience myself. But overall I think we are in general agreement!

    I think the key thing is, if they were arboreal then climbing and vertical space would be a necessity for them to thrive. Since BP's are not, they definitely don't NEED it and can do just fine without it, but would be a nice option that some bp's (males being more likely) may appreciate or at the very least use voluntarily. Providing the set up is secure and making sure husbandry is on point, which of course is first and foremost.

    Anyways sorry for getting off topic StarScream! We love your little girl!
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    Re: Mazikeen progression thread

    Ugh double posted sorry
    Last edited by MissterDog; 07-26-2017 at 07:27 PM.
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