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[OTorresUSMC]

Because the temps are a bit high on both side especially for a spider, Spiders seem to do better with slightly lower temperature. And with a cool end of 84 it would actually be better not to have a hot spot all together than have both.

Perhaps I will try that then, I can pull his heat pad and see what changes. He does move between hides tho so wouldn't that seem to indicate that he is still thermo-regulating? If it was too hot wouldn't he just stay on the cool side?

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[Craiga 01453]

DISCLAIMER: The people who have been responding have more experience than I do, much more. But I was wondering, with an ambient room temp and ambient enclosure temps of 83-84, do you really need the hot spots? I've heard of people using only ambient room temps in their snake rooms, and I believe 83-84 is in that "ideal" range.

I could be mistaken, I'm only going on things I've read and not personal experience, so I guess I'm asking as well as making a potential suggestion.

Thanks...

[JodanOrNoDan]

DISCLAIMER: The people who have been responding have more experience than I do, much more. But I was wondering, with an ambient room temp and ambient enclosure temps of 83-84, do you really need the hot spots? I've heard of people using only ambient room temps in their snake rooms, and I believe 83-84 is in that "ideal" range.

I could be mistaken, I'm only going on things I've read and not personal experience, so I guess I'm asking as well as making a potential suggestion.

Thanks...

I am on 84 to 88 ambient only and it works for me so in theory you are correct. If the OP boosts to 84 the hot spot is no longer needed. I was just really curious about the the drop temp suggestion since it goes counter to how I have always thought. I suspect there is possible truth in what Albert said. Immature thermo regulation. And maybe some truth in the same vein with spider as Deborah suggested where their thermoregulation is possibly quirky. Something for me to think about since I will have quite a few spiders hatching next month.

[Craiga 01453]

I am on 84 to 88 ambient only and it works for me so in theory you are correct. If the OP boosts to 84 the hot spot is no longer needed. I was just really curious about the the drop temp suggestion since it goes counter to how I have always thought. I suspect there is possible truth in what Albert said. Immature thermo regulation. And maybe some truth in the same vein with spider as Deborah suggested where their thermoregulation is possibly quirky. Something for me to think about since I will have quite a few spiders hatching next month.

Ok, I thought I was on the right track but was thinking 83-84 might be about as low as the ambient room temps should be. And I also believed that you were one of the people I knew of and respected that uses ambient temps in a temp controlled room. Thanks!

...and yeah, Albert and Deborah are two of the members on this forum I have learned a lot from and have a huge amount of respect for. I always pay extra attention when they post.

[guanagator]

I had a male banana fire spider fast from early last august until last week, live African soft fur got him to feed and he just took a FT small rat this evening. Tried lower temps, higher temps, bin size, substrate, changing humidity, everything I could think of and more, ASF did the trick.

[monks98]

We have a male who doesn't eat from late September until late February every single year. Its just this one. The first time I thought he was dying haha he was one of our first BPs. But for the rest of the year he eats like a boss...weekly....without fail. We also have had some of the young snakes not eat unless the room was dark. But we don't feed live.

We have an ambient temp of about 84...the room is dedicated to just critters. But we use belly heat in the tubs meaning the half with heat is technically the hot spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but is it suggested you don't need that if the ambient is high enough? What about digestion without under tank warmth? TIA!

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[JodanOrNoDan]

We have a male who doesn't eat from late September until late February every single year. Its just this one. The first time I thought he was dying haha he was one of our first BPs. But for the rest of the year he eats like a boss...weekly....without fail. We also have had some of the young snakes not eat unless the room was dark. But we don't feed live.

We have an ambient temp of about 84...the room is dedicated to just critters. But we use belly heat in the tubs meaning the half with heat is technically the hot spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but is it suggested you don't need that if the ambient is high enough? What about digestion without under tank warmth? TIA!

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I run ambient only in my snake room and it runs between 84-88. I have a separate rack in another room that I use for quarantine that has a normal heat tape setup. The only thing that has heat tape in it in my snake room is my incubator. I have experienced zero difference as it pertains to the animals doing it one way or the other. It is just easier for me to run ambient only for the majority of my collection. A lot less failure points to check.

[OTorresUSMC]

I run ambient only in my snake room and it runs between 84-88. I have a separate rack in another room that I use for quarantine that has a normal heat tape setup. The only thing that has heat tape in it in my snake room is my incubator. I have experienced zero difference as it pertains to the animals doing it one way or the other. It is just easier for me to run ambient only for the majority of my collection. A lot less failure points to check.

When you say 84-88 does that mean you adjust based on time of year or you just have that much fluctuation in the temp?

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[JodanOrNoDan]

When you say 84-88 does that mean you adjust based on time of year or you just have that much fluctuation in the temp?

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I kind of get a fake summer/ winter thing going. I live in florida so ambient does not require that much effort. Heat maintains to 84 which I don't even have plugged in right now. AC keeps it below 89. So, I run a little warmer in the summer than I do the winter.