Champagne Ringers???

[EGreenwood]

Just out of interest I was wondering if anyone knew what the deal with the champagne gene is??(haha)
I love the look of champagnes, especially the ones that possess ringers (white patches on the tail). But I'm curious as to how to make these ringer animals, do some just happen by chance to have ringers because the parent champagne had them or do they just happen randomly? As in, if I bought a female champagne without a ringer, could she potentially have offspring with ringers or is this not possible? I've not been able to find any answers about this on any other forums

thanks in advance

[salt]

Champagne het pied can give you ringers up to an animal that is basically a champagne pied. An actual champagne pied strangely enough is white. I've also read somewhere about fire mixed into champagne giving a slightly greater chance at ringers but I don't know how true that is.

[Seven-Thirty]

Fire, Cinnamon, and Black Pastel tend to throw ringers in Champagne. Not guaranteed though.

[EGreenwood]

thats exciting cos I have a Lithium male (butter x cinnamon) so maybe he'd throw some pretty ringers if paired with a female champagne. I didn't know other morphs could increase the chance! thank you

[Ba11er]

You might look into buying one of Dave Green's Cham Ringers they are amazing, Take a look !

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ampagne+ringer

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ampagne+ringer

[EGreenwood]

yeah ive heard about him and seen these beautiful babies before, I'd do anything to snatch one off him but I'm in the UK so don't know if that's possible

[cchardwick]

I'm thinking that just about anything mixed with Champagne has the potential to give a ringer. I'm betting that a normal single gene champagne with a ringer is het for something or has something else in the mix, I doubt that a single gene champagne will throw a ringer.

[Izzys Keeper]

Cinnamon champ is nice

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[asplundii]

I'm betting that a normal single gene champagne with a ringer is het for something or has something else in the mix, I doubt that a single gene champagne will throw a ringer.

Straight Champs with no other genes will throw ringers, it a secondary phenotype that is tied in to the mutation.