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    I agree, the comparisons I made are a bit askew from handling venomous snakes. I was just trying to get my thoughts across. There will always be thrill seekers, there will always be people who, quite frankly, make stupid decisions in they eyes of the majority.

    There will also always be people who see something and think "if he/she can do it, so can I" so go out and try it with terrible results. And yes, it's true, no amount of disclaimers or warnings or "do not try this at home" are going to stop some people.

    I do believe though, that no matter what a kid sees on tv/movies/internet it is not the fault of the tv/movie/internet. Kids should be educated and monitored by their parents and not so many fingers should be pointed. If kids have access to Chris Sweet's videos and what-not, he's not to blame for kids going out and handling venomous snakes. It's not his responsibility to watch out for the world.

    And I don't really agree that what he does paints a negative picture of the hobby. There's one in every crowd. There's always going to be that person or those people who draw unwanted, negative attention to a hobby or whatever. I don't see a video of a couple drunken idiots on four-wheelers drunk jousting with 2x4s and think that is how all people who ride four-wheelers behave. I just think, man, look at these idiots.

    Last thought: We live in a world that made the guys from Jackass millionaires. So what's so surprising about Chris Sweet??
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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Let me end this by saying we actually agree on many things! I still don't like what he does and others/you do. I'm OK with that


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    Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Oh..btw when I said it paints our hobby in a bad light I meant the inevitable backlash after bites, esp fatal ones. Read this article. It's older, but it was a snake enthusiast that free handled hots. Things like that make the news. See what the neighbors said. And how they felt about it. Next thing you have new laws since the owners are "to irresponsible to keep themselves and others safe". Things like that always have a backlash. A fatality esp. so. There have been other instances like that. And they are always used as ammo to tighten the laws ever more. First it's venemous, then "constrictors" then anything over 4 feet long and finally any snakes. Happening more and more and putting yourself in the limelight doing something dangerous gives the authorities justification (in their eyes) to protect us from ourselves. And our neighbors, etc.
    http://articles.latimes.com/1999/dec/17/local/me-44868



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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Quote Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    Let me end this by saying we actually agree on many things! I still don't like what he does and others/you do. I'm OK with that


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    Agreed, we agree on many things.
    In closing, I wouldn't say I necessarily like what he does, but I've got no real objection to it. I do find it fascinating, but in the same way I find most snake or reptile related info and most animal related stuff fascinating. I can watch animal planet/nat geo and youtube videos for days.
    Anyway, always good to hear other peoples thoughts and points of view. I know I'm not always right, I know people see things differently and not always eye-to-eye. But if would be a boring world if we did
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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Quote Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    I don't see a video of a couple drunken idiots on four-wheelers drunk jousting with 2x4s and think that is how all people who ride four-wheelers behave. I just think, man, look at these idiots.
    Now there is one i haven't tried, yet........

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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Quote Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    Oh..btw when I said it paints our hobby in a bad light I meant the inevitable backlash after bites, esp fatal ones. Read this article. It's older, but it was a snake enthusiast that free handled hots. Things like that make the news. See what the neighbors said. And how they felt about it. Next thing you have new laws since the owners are "to irresponsible to keep themselves and others safe". Things like that always have a backlash. A fatality esp. so. There have been other instances like that. And they are always used as ammo to tighten the laws ever more. First it's venemous, then "constrictors" then anything over 4 feet long and finally any snakes. Happening more and more and putting yourself in the limelight doing something dangerous gives the authorities justification (in their eyes) to protect us from ourselves. And our neighbors, etc.
    http://articles.latimes.com/1999/dec/17/local/me-44868



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    That's unfortunate, and I definitely see your side when it comes to the painting a bad light aspect of all this.
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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Quote Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    Now there is one i haven't tried, yet........
    Make sure you get somebody to video it and post it to youtube. post the link here immediately. Please and thank you

    P.S. Insert disclaimer here!! Don't try this at home!!!
    Phew! Now I'm not liable!!
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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Quote Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    Make sure you get somebody to video it and post it to youtube. post the link here immediately. Please and thank you

    P.S. Insert disclaimer here!! Don't try this at home!!!
    Phew! Now I'm not liable!!
    ROFL. All my adventures are on the down low. No vids. Not for public consumption.

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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    Just wanted to add to this getting old thread. A FB group that I belong to had a shot of someones king cobra hiding in a backpack. Folks were saying “I think protocols should be followed but make exceptions for cobras. They can be puppydog tame” using this guy as an example. I never heard about him before. But he does have an impact and doesn’t seem to be good,

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    Re: Is this for real??? Guy free handling King Cobras, other hots..

    To further what was said about hot keepers being bit by showing off:

    This guy is taking pictures/selfies by himself with a King Cobra flared up on his wrist..........and that's pretty much the definition of showing off.

    I have several friends that own hots, I have handled them myself occasionally although I tend to avoid it.



    I don't like this kind of activity surrounding them however, as you KNOW what is going to happen: Ever heard of Luke Yeoman? This guy primarily ONLY worked with Kings....and it killed him.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-turn-him.html


    In summary, this guy will more than likely be taken to the grave by the hobby he loves and as a result, the ENTIRE herp community looks stupid as a result of someone who couldn't just use a hook in order to gain hits/money from his Instagram/Youtube accounts.

    I have no problem saying it although I'm sure not everyone agrees with me: People like this severely hurt the reputation of keeping reptiles, and if affects ALL of us.
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