How to identify the Fire gene in combos?

[canicemok]

The pet shop stated that this is a lesser/butter fire, aka nuclear, ball python. It is supposed to get lighter and lighter when she grows up due to the fire gene. However, after she gaining some weight (close to 200g now) and shed once, it seems that she looks like a normal butter rather than having fire in it.
So my question is what morph you guys think she is and how do you identify the fire gene in multi gene combos. Thank you.

[cchardwick]

Well.... From what I've seen a Lesser + Butter is an all white snake, I'd say that there is no Lesser in that one. Fire is tough as well, the best way is to compare the entire clutch and the lighter / brighter snakes will have Fire in them assuming one of the parents had it. I'm not sure about the Fire, but it looks like a normal Butter to me. Butters are so variable, it could have Fire in there... I'd have to see the siblings.

Nuclear = Butter + Fire (no Lesser in Nuclear)

I actually have a Fire Pied ball python. It had really intense colors when it was young but now is really light / faded / washed out.

[canicemok]

Oh I think my expression is misleading. I mean it is either butter or lesser but not butter lesser which is a BEL as you said. I have heard that lesser and butter are extremely similar and many people believe that they are the same gene but different blood line. I hope more people can identify the morph for me.

[rufretic]

I do believe your snake could have fire in it. But like Cchardwick said, without seeing it next to a sibling it is near impossible to say for sure. The reason I said I think it does is because the color is similar to my lesser pastel. I believe if it was just lesser it would be darker. The problem is, it could just be a light lesser, they do seem to vary quite a bit from light to dark. If it was sold to you as lesser fire, I would assume it is though unless you prove otherwise by breeding it.

[PitOnTheProwl]

That is not just a base Lesser or Butter........
I would assume its a Butter Fire without question but the only real way to prove it out would be to breed her.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

I am not seeing fire in this one sorry.

[canicemok]

Thank you guys! I hope she has fire since I can make some more combos with that. But if she is only a light butter or lesser, I still have a gorgeous snake and I love her to death.

[canicemok]

Just did some research and many sources state that the fire ball python has a head stamp on it. But I can't see any head stamp on my snake. So we can conclude that she is just a lesser? Or there are exceptional cases that some fire ball does not have a head stamp?

[JodanOrNoDan]

I am with Pit on this. There is more than just Lesser there. By the picture, I am not seeing fire because of the missing head stamp, but I have seen fire combos without it. I would be a million times easier to tell in this case if there was a picture of the entire clutch.

[kxr]

It'd also be much easier to ID if you knew what the parents were

Ask the pet store, hopefully they bred it or someone who stops by often that they could ask did.


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