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100% het pied
excuse me for asking a dumb question. but is 100% het pied, pied balls? im super new to this and i have seen on morphmarket that they dont look like pied balls.
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100% het pied
100% het pied is a normal ball python but half pied (piebald, patterns with various sections of white) pied is a recessive trait so you have to have both pied genes on the allele for it to be a visual. So 100% het pied is a guaranteed partial pied but not a visual pied. So you have to mate 2 het pieds to have a chance of a visual or a het pied to a pied to get a chance of visual
Piebald(visual pied):
And a het piebald is same with no white
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Last edited by BBotteron; 03-03-2017 at 05:53 PM.
1.0 pastel 100% het piebald
0.1 pastel enchi 100% het clown
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Piebald is a recessive gene. Short explanation is that the snake caries the gene for piebald but it is not expressed. A het piebald could be bred to a visual piebald or another het piebald to make a visual piebald. Read up a little on genetics and this will make a lot more sense. Things make even more sense when you use the proper genetic terms which I did not do here. I am using hobby terminology.
Above poster beat me too it.
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A 100% Het Pied is simply a normal looking animal carrying the gene for Pied which is recessive.
By pairing Het Pied to Het Pied you will have 25% chances per egg to hatch a Pied
By pairing a Pied to a Het Pied you will get 50% chances per egg to hatch a Pied
Pied to Pied would give you all Pieds
Pied to normal would give you a clutch of 100% Het Pied
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Het is short for heterozygous. It means that the animal carries one (1) copy the recessive gene, but does not visually express it. It will never "look" pied, but when paired with another snake that also carries the pied gene, they can each pass down a copy of the pied gene (called an allele) and produce pied babies. When an animal has two (2) copies of the gene, it's known as homozygous. Recessive genes will be able to be seen (pied, albino, clown, ect) and co-dom genes will appear in their super form. A homozygous animal is guaranteed to always pass down 1 copy of that gene to its offspring because it carries both. A heterogeneous animal has a chance at passing down the single gene it carries, but it's not guaranteed.
For just-a-pet purposes, if you want a pied you will have to buy a pied. For breeding purposes, you can buy two het animals then cross your fingers and hope.
Last edited by Lizardlicks; 03-03-2017 at 06:14 PM.
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Re: 100% het pied
Originally Posted by Lizardlicks
Het is short for heterozygous. It means that the animal carries one (1) copy the recessive gene, but does not visually express it. ....
This definition is correct for recessive genes but does not cover codominant and dominant genes.
Genes come in pairs. All gene pairs are either homozygous or heterozygous.
Standard genetics definitions.
homozygous = the two genes in a gene pair are the same.
heterozygous = the two genes in a gene pair are not the same.
Two genes, A and a, make three gene pairs--AA (homozygous), Aa (heterozygous), and aa (homozygous).
The A gene is dominant to the a gene if an individual with the Aa gene pair looks like an individual with the AA gene pair.
The a gene is recessive to the A gene if an individual with the Aa gene pair looks like an individual with the AA gene pair.
The A and a genes are codominant to each other if an individual with the Aa gene pair can be distinguished from individuals with either the AA or aa gene pair.
A ball python has approximately 20000 gene pairs. A normal gene is the most common gene in a given gene pair in the wild population. A mutant gene is NOT the most common gene in a given gene pair in the wild population.
Pied is a mutant gene that is recessive to the normal gene. The letter a could be used to symbolize the pied gene, and the letter A could be used to symbolize the corresponding normal gene. The gene pair AA = genetically normal and looks normal. The gene pair Aa = genetically heterozygous for pied and looks normal. The gene pair aa = genetically pied and has areas of white skin (pied).
Super means homozygous for a codominant mutant gene.
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Re: 100% het pied
Well, yes, but the question seemed more about the terminology used in relation to recessive traits, so I didn't include dom and co-dom in the explination because the hobby doesn't refer to those as "het" even though they can both also be heterozygous or homozygous.
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Re: 100% het pied
Got this little gal on Sunday.. Pastel het pied.
Last edited by SnailSnakeQuinn; 03-08-2017 at 08:58 AM.
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Nice lookin' little cutie!
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