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    I'm Wondering if Someone Can Shed Some Light For Me...

    My friend, who I trust completely, got me a 2-month old ball python. He has three different morphs, with also a kink in his tail that actually is a little Cinnabon at the end of his tail. Luckily it clears the cloaca. He is eating great, pooping great, and shed when my friend had him.

    My question is with his genetics. This is the paper I got with him: "Normal 13 (or B) and calico, pastel, fire AN male." Does this mean that he is het for calico, pastel, AND fire? I was at a show in Orlando and showed another breeder his picture, and he said that Earnie looks like a calico. Any help would be appreciated. In the long run, it doesn't matter. He is just a pet. But I'm curious as to how this works.

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    Re: I'm Wondering if Someone Can Shed Some Light For Me...

    I'm new to this but, I think Het only refers to recessive genes... like Pied, Ghost, Albino, etc... I would think that he's a Calico Pastel, Fire. The other info may have just been used as identifiers for the breeder. If not I'm positive someone smarter than me will chime in shortly.


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    He's a calico, no pastel or fire in him. I think the label may refer to the parents and their ID's... Normal female 13 to pastel fire calico male. Don't know what AN means but may be part of an ID. That would be my guess at least.
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    Those aren't het genes. I'm new but can see the calico maybe, but beyond that

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    And Ball2Drop is right, being referred to as a het is almost only used when in reference to recessive traits, like albino, pied, ghost etc. An animal that is a het is heterozygous for a trait, meaning the animal carries the gene for the trait but doesn't express it. For an animal to express the trait they would need two copies of the gene, making them a homozygote.

    With codominant genes like fire, pastel and calico, only one copy of the gene is needed to express the trait.
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    Re: I'm Wondering if Someone Can Shed Some Light For Me...

    Thank you, everyone!
    Last edited by Carrie Beth; 12-06-2016 at 08:57 PM.
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    Re: I'm Wondering if Someone Can Shed Some Light For Me...

    Got a picture of the paper that came with him? I have a feeling something is being lost in translation and maybe we can help clear that up too.
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    Re: I'm Wondering if Someone Can Shed Some Light For Me...

    Sure, here's a picture of the paper that came with him. Thanks again!

    https://gm1.ggpht.com/gJj9tklMtxqFZZ...66-h638-l75-ft
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    Picture doesnt seem to work.
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    Re: I'm Wondering if Someone Can Shed Some Light For Me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie Beth View Post
    Sure, here's a picture of the paper that came with him. Thanks again!

    https://gm1.ggpht.com/gJj9tklMtxqFZZ...66-h638-l75-ft
    That link doesn't appear to be working (from both my phone and the computer at work). I'll try again once I'm home. Do you have another place you could host the document? If not, feel free to email it to me and I can share with the forum: eric@ebballpythons.com.
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