Any advice on how to work with Natsu on getting out of his cage?

[AriSilvermoon]

So Natsu has calmed down some what. I try to hold him each day (besides when in shed or right after he eats) for about 15-30 minutes depending on his body language. He has gotten where he will huff and hiss a little while out exploring on me and if he gets spooked he'll pee on me but he hasn't stuck at me since the first week, unless I put my hand in his cage to get him out. I've been using a hook to pull him out because if I put my hand in there he immediately gets in the strike pose. How can I work with him to be able to reach in and get him? Once he gets bigger I won't feel comfortable using the hook because I don't want to hurt him. Any advice would be appreciated! I don't mind getting tagged so if I need to just start putting my hand in his cage and leaving it in there till he gets used to that I will (that was suggested by a friend that has boas but I don't know if that works with bloods).

here's a pic of him waiting for me to spray his moss:



And then hen waiting for me to spray him:




And finally him after i sprayed him:


He loves his moss and always waits with his nose out for me to spray his head and then he'll sit there for a minute then go back into his moss and you can see it shifting around as he buries himself lol.

[maausen]

I don't know anything about the question... but thats adorable that he does that. such personality.

[Alexio]

I would say that sounds fairly normal for a young blood. They really do tend to calm down with age. I have a semi adult blood and she is still a little huffy when i first reach into her cage. I also do what your friend said i will sometimes open the cage and just reach in lift up the hide and wait for her to calm down (usually 10/15 mins) then when she is noticeably relaxed i put the hide down and leave her alone, just to get her over the anxiety of being disturbed.
I personally wouldnt worry about the hook. I have an adult that i reach in and grab but i always use the hook first just to get a sense of her mood. I would never stick my hand in an adult bloods cage with out getting a good feel for the mood. I usually give her a little nudge with the hook to alert her to my presence, then depending on what way her head is facing ill try to shift her around so shes not poised at my hands when i grab her.

[AriSilvermoon]

Thanks! I will start putting my hand in and leaving it in there and see how that goes! I really want him to get more comfortable with me.

[GoingPostal]

What happens if you reach in and grab him out right away? Ime short tails are just a bit grouchy in cage and it's better to just go for it, once you have tapped or otherwise alerted the snake that you aren't food first. I have a couple that are not happy about coming out but don't actually bite, despite all the bluff.


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[AriSilvermoon]

What happens if you reach in and grab him out right away? Ime short tails are just a bit grouchy in cage and it's better to just go for it, once you have tapped or otherwise alerted the snake that you aren't food first. I have a couple that are not happy about coming out but don't actually bite, despite all the bluff.


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As soon as I open his cage he starts huffing and gets in the strike pose. I haven't tried just putting my hand in right away. After I open the lid I usually then touch him with the hook and he'll hiss at me and jerk around like he's going to strike at the hook. I then usually just lift him and get him out of the cage with the hook. But once he's full grown this won't be an option so I need to build trust with him that I'm not a predator going to hurt him. So I'm just trying to figure that part out. After I get him out he's fine he explores my lap and only huffs a little. I did get peed on today because my husband came in unannounced and it scared him enough that he sprayed me and I can definitely attest that he's a boy. Plus my husband found a female albino blood that he really likes but before he brings her home I want to make sure that I am doing things correctly with Natsu since I'll end up being the one to take care of the other blood as well.

[Fraido]

Why wouldn't using the hook an option when he's full grown? I use a hook for my borneo. I don't just reach my hand into any enclosure (aside from ball pythons) and just grab the snake, not unless they're actively moving away from my hand or looking away. 90 percent of the time I use the hook.

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[redshepherd]

I don't have advice, but can you not get a bigger and thicker hook or snake tongs for when he's an adult?

[GoingPostal]

He's still pretty small, I would throw a glove on if you are concerned about a bite or just go for it, see what he does. A lot of times it's really just bluff and noise. All I do is open the cage, lift the hide and touch their side to get them alert I am handling and grab them out, if i wait and think about it seems to just get them more defensive. I only use the hook if they are looking like they want food to tap and snap them out of it. Although some days they are not in the mood and it's better to just leave them alone, I normally only handle once or twice a week so maybe cut back a bit on time out?


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[AriSilvermoon]

No one around here sells a bigger hook I can see if I can find one on Amazon but I'm always apprehensive about using the hook, I'm afraid I'm going to hurt his ribs or something I would rather just be able to grab him out and make sure he's supported the whole way. I'll try just reaching in and grabbing him and see how that goes and cut back on the handling. thanks guys!