Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

[jmcrook]

Decided to go with paper eh? If you are going to use that. Check into this stuff. I know a lot of the boa breeders use. Me and Skip Frye had a chat about using it over substrate. This is for the 2 foot deep cages. Would have to change it for the 30 inch deep cages. https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail...Flute-24-x-250

Just on paper while her mouth is healing up. I've got 6 blocks of pro coco on standby. Just didn't want dirt and stuff getting into her swollen face


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[Sauzo]

Just on paper while her mouth is healing up. I've got 6 blocks of pro coco on standby. Just didn't want dirt and stuff getting into her swollen face


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Weenie!! Rub some dirt on it and go back to work!! Thats what i was always told when i was a kid and fell lol. I've pretty much accepted that Caesar will always have some scrape on him as he is like a wreckless little kid haha. I got him a big potted Pothos and he seems to love it. He has wrapped around it and been inspecting it haha. Gonna get the big boas and Caesar each another big Pothos for the cool sides later as they arent cheap. I remember when plants were cheap as dirt lol. Now they are kind of expensive especially the big ones. I mean $50 for a big plant without a pot or dirt......

[jmcrook]

Well, went 5 days after feeding and she’s been smashing her face in the cage doors all day... I give up. She’s just going to eat every 5-6 days and get fat I guess? That or have a permanently disfigured face


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[Sauzo]

Well, went 5 days after feeding and she’s been smashing her face in the cage doors all day... I give up. She’s just going to eat every 5-6 days and get fat I guess? That or have a permanently disfigured face


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Try a live plant!! Get yourself a decent sized potted pothos and see if that helps. I swear it has helped with Caesar a TON. He still will windshield wipe the doors sometimes when he wants attention but overall it has cut his pushing down to almost nothing. I am really thinking the smell of piss or ammonia or whatever was making him push to get out. The plant eliminates the odors. If it doesnt work, you will have a pet plant lol.

I say pothos since they seem to be the most easy to care for and are growing like weeds even under just LED cage lighting. The prayer plant is doing ok but not as nice looking as at the nursery lol. And the parlor palm looks like hell warmed over lol. Plus the snakes can kind of crawl on the pothos without wiping it out and it will grow like a ground vine so will look pretty nice once it starts growing outward.

[jmcrook]

Try a live plant!! Get yourself a decent sized potted pothos and see if that helps. I swear it has helped with Caesar a TON. He still will windshield wipe the doors sometimes when he wants attention but overall it has cut his pushing down to almost nothing. I am really thinking the smell of piss or ammonia or whatever was making him push to get out. The plant eliminates the odors. If it doesnt work, you will have a pet plant lol.

I say pothos since they seem to be the most easy to care for and are growing like weeds even under just LED cage lighting. The prayer plant is doing ok but not as nice looking as at the nursery lol. And the parlor palm looks like hell warmed over lol. Plus the snakes can kind of crawl on the pothos without wiping it out and it will grow like a ground vine so will look pretty nice once it starts growing outward.

Lol I’ll give it a shot. I could take out her cool side hide and put a plant over there I suppose. I think you’re underestimating the crushing power of Phyllis’s enormous body with that plant though hahaha! I wish you could come handle this snake and really see how huge she got. It’s crazy


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[Sauzo]

Lol I’ll give it a shot. I could take out her cool side hide and put a plant over there I suppose. I think you’re underestimating the crushing power of Phyllis’s enormous body with that plant though hahaha! I wish you could come handle this snake and really see how huge she got. It’s crazy


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Lol, well Caesar inspected his plant for a few days mostly by just sticking his head in there. He never tried to climb through it though. Here is hopefully a helpful pic. I couldnt really open the door more as Caesar was stretched out on the other side on the litter dam during his nightly open door sessions haha. The pot is is 8 inches across i think and made from terra cotta. Just the plain pot. The roughness would also work well as something to rub on the help shed too. I just put the plant in front of the closed side of the hide. So Caesar still has full access to his cool hide and can still sit on top of it but the plant gives him a sense of 'cover' too as it is starting to vine so it can overhang the hide entrance a little.

[Sauzo]

Lol I’ll give it a shot. I could take out her cool side hide and put a plant over there I suppose. I think you’re underestimating the crushing power of Phyllis’s enormous body with that plant though hahaha! I wish you could come handle this snake and really see how huge she got. It’s crazy


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Oh and i can imagine. Destructo Dottie tried to sit and curl up on top of the Poor Prayer plant which is why it is kind of messed up looking lol. She basically flattened it so i took it out and put it in Gina's cage and it is starting to kind of look like a plant again haha.

[jmcrook]

Phyllis got a plant... and nothing else changed. Pooped at day 5 like usual and then began her destruction program as usual. Gonna try adding belly heat and see if that fixes anything just because she curled up on the top of her cage above her RHP when I let her out to cruise the room last night and stayed there for close to an hour. She initially began pushing when she moved into her full T8 in September/October of 2016, previous to that she had belly heat when she was in half of a T8 and in her 20L before that. Pretty confident I’ve tried everything else that could be a reason for pushing aside from her potentially looking to breed but I won’t even consider trying that until next season if at all


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[67temp]

What are all the things that you have tried without luck to stop the pushing?

[jmcrook]

What are all the things that you have tried without luck to stop the pushing?

Increased temps, lowered temps, increased humidity, lowered humidity, coco chip bedding to aspen to coco to paper back to coco, bigger hides, smaller hides, extra hides, less hides, bigger prey less frequently, smaller prey more frequently, larger prey more frequently, alternating smaller and larger prey from week to week, added cage clutter, reduced cage clutter, gave her water bottle “toys” to push around, live plant cover and fake plant cover, daily free roaming sessions in the room or yard for at least an hour, larger water bowl, smaller water bowl, every possible combination of all of the above variables. Only two things I haven’t tried yet is putting her back in a 4’ cage. Currently in a 72”x30”x18”, I could put her back in her old 48”x24”x12” but that would barely be enough room for her and the water bowl definitely no room for hides. Just added flexwatt back under her warm hide to see if that fixes anything but she’s due to eat tonight anyway so that will keep her quiet for 4-5 days... then back to destroying her face


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