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[tttaylorrr]

Jesus Christ... she’s now managed to push to the point that I just found one of the antibiotic beads they implanted in her face stuck to a cage door.
Maybe she was just never meant to be a captive animal? She is first generation in captivity after all. Even my vet just told me she’s running out of ideas for what to do at this point


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im so sorry, friend. just sending you positive vibes; you both are in my thoughts. <3

[zina10]

Jesus Christ... she’s now managed to push to the point that I just found one of the antibiotic beads they implanted in her face stuck to a cage door.
Maybe she was just never meant to be a captive animal? She is first generation in captivity after all. Even my vet just told me she’s running out of ideas for what to do at this point


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I don't envy you for having to make a decision how to move forward with this girl..

Sorry it hasn't worked out better.

Hope dies last, but the quality of life (yours and hers) needs to be factored in, as well..

Just a sad situation all around..

[jmcrook]

Thank you, Taylor and Zina. My vet doesn’t want us to give up just yet, she’s going to see if she can’t think of something else to try out. I’m really beginning to fear that I’ll have to put her down. I just can’t afford to keep up with the cost of maintaining her veterinary treatment at this rate, not to mention the dark cloud hanging over my head all day everyday just wondering how fiercely she’s pushing while I’m gone and then coming home, where relaxation is no longer an option, because i can hear her from across the apt destroying herself. Definitely feeling my most defeated and lowest of morale in over 20yrs of keeping reptiles right now


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[zina10]

Thank you, Taylor and Zina. My vet doesn’t want us to give up just yet, she’s going to see if she can’t think of something else to try out. I’m really beginning to fear that I’ll have to put her down. I just can’t afford to keep up with the cost of maintaining her veterinary treatment at this rate, not to mention the dark cloud hanging over my head all day everyday just wondering how fiercely she’s pushing while I’m gone and then coming home, where relaxation is no longer an option, because i can hear her from across the apt destroying herself. Definitely feeling my most defeated and lowest of morale in over 20yrs of keeping reptiles right now


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I understand that you feel this way. She is your animal, your responsibility. But you also have to give yourself some credit. You already KNOW that she is far from the only retic that does that. It seems that this is a rather wide spread issue with them. And there seems to be no rhyme or rhythm to it. You are either lucky with your retic, or you are not. Even the best of care, the most innovation and the willingness to spend big bucks on enclosures and vets seems to make no difference when its bad. It was just that. Bad luck. Its nothing you did or didn't do. I've been reading reptile forums for years, on all kinds of species, and I've rarely come across anyone that was as committed to an animal with that problem as you have been.

I commend your vet for keep wanting to try. Surely they are also intrigued about this issue and wonder if there is a way to fix it. I wish there was a team of experts/researchers that would spend some years on studying this phenomena, to see if their is some sort of common denominator in the animals that push until they destroy themselves. Until its understood, there is no way to prevent it or fix it.
Every so often you get researchers and labs interested in such a thing, sort of like they did with German Shepherds and their quirk about becoming addicted and neurotic to light/shadow movement if you let them chase the laser dot. Some of them become so obsessed, it destroys their and their owners quality of life. Its sad and scary.

I know you are down. What you should do is have a sit down with your vet. Before you go, write down all your questions, your concerns. Explain your limitations financially. Explain how far you are willing to go if her quality of life becomes compromised. Ask them to be completely honest when they think treatment is not going to do much difference anymore. You and the vet need to be 100% on the same page.

You have been told by all the members following your journey with her how much they admire you, and that it is not your fault, not to beat yourself up about it. Believe them.

I wish there was some sort of Elizabethan collar for snakes. Like there are for dogs and cats to keep them from messing with their wounds. Of course on a snake it would just slide down their bodies..

[Dianne]

I’m so sorry to hear this has continued to worsen. There’s nothing I can add that others haven’t said. You really have shown your dedication and care of Phyllis. There aren’t a lot of keepers that would go to the lengths you already have. It is a large weight around your neck when you’re trying to figure out the right thing to do. I know the decision I made for my burm Josephine was not popular with many keepers...believe me I’ve gotten plenty of comments on what I should have done or could have done differently. The thing is, no-one else really has all of the facts for your situation. I’m truly wishing you the best and hoping for a “Hail Mary” pass to come your way.

[Prognathodon]

You have been told by all the members following your journey with her how much they admire you, and that it is not your fault, not to beat yourself up about it. Believe them.

Yes, this. You’ve done so much for Phyllis, nobody with sense can criticize you for not trying. And I think I can safely speak for others that we’re even more concerned for you than her.

I wish I lived closer so I could offer real hugs and (unofficial) therapy beagle love.


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[CALM Pythons]

My Big Burm went to a Zoo here in NY. Is that a option or something you can look into? Mine is now in a Huge Display with a Pond, Rock walls and Caves. Retirement hahahaha


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[jmcrook]

My Big Burm went to a Zoo here in NY. Is that a option or something you can look into? Mine is now in a Huge Display with a Pond, Rock walls and Caves. Retirement hahahaha


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I may have to look into that.

[Sauzo]

So how is Phyllis doing? She getting any better or eating?

[Justin83]

You could keep her in a tent with no hard sides maybe?