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With nothing found in the fecal I would think about getting blood work done just to see if there is something else going on.
I would hate to say its just underfeeding and lack of hydration but its not looking good.
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
Originally Posted by Pippers
Obviously there's a slight deficiency in his conditions but do you think this could be the cause for no weight gain whatsoever since birth? Or is it indeed underfeeding
Slight deficiency? You have a 55 gram 1+ year old ball python that's never had a good shed and has had prolapsed hemipenes for 2 months. That in itself screams that he needs to be cared for differently.
Regardless of the food issue, getting control of your husbandry is the low hanging fruit that you can (and should) correct immediately. There could be other issues, but right now you can only control what is in your control. Then you can move on to other things.
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
Pets are a great responsability so my post might not be popular and YOU might not like it but it will honest.
Based on everything I read (from husbandry to a 2 months old prolapse) as well as the fact that you are tight when it comes to finances the best advice I can give you is to re-home your animal with someone knowledgeable and financially stable for now.
This will give you the time to do some research on husbandry (which is MUCH needed), and will also give you time to get financially stable.
If finances are tight imagine what will happen when the vet bill for a burn arrives and because you do not regulate your temps this is not a if but a when.
The prolapse also need to be addressed and it's beyond homemade remedy at this point, we are talking about another vet bill.
So anyway hopefully you will take all that in consideration.
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
Originally Posted by Eric Alan
Slight deficiency? You have a 55 gram 1+ year old ball python that's never had a good shed and has had prolapsed hemipenes for 2 months. That in itself screams that he needs to be cared for differently.
Regardless of the food issue, getting control of your husbandry is the low hanging fruit that you can (and should) correct immediately. There could be other issues, but right now you can only control what is in your control. Then you can move on to other things.
My temps at the moment are 86-88 hot side 75 low side. I'm going to humor you with the whole first time poster "it's not my fault he has this problem" cliche but it's not my fault he has this problem. Sorry to break it to ya expert but 2 degrees on the low side does not warrant non growth in a snake. Your analysis is off and your aggression is uncalled for.
The fact that you think I take dumps in his tank and piss in his water bowl and ask for help is appalling. Yeah I have an unheard of problem here, but he's always had this problem. Don't give me the "you haven't been feeding him right" spiel because when I had first got him he wasn't growing. It is not as if he grew off of the fuzzies and I never upgraded, he never grew. I have done my research, and obviously I sound helpless but how would you feel if despite all your efforts, your snake was a special case.
Last edited by Pippers; 01-16-2016 at 03:44 PM.
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
Also Deborah, he's been sleeping under his rock at night on his heating pad for approximately 6 months now and his belly is as white as ever. However, I'll keep an eye on it. Thank you for the kind advice and good intentions but the condition of his tank does not equal the condition of his body. I will look elsewhere for help from now on, thank you.
Last edited by Pippers; 01-16-2016 at 03:52 PM.
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Please calm down.
Analogues and strips are not accurate measuring devices. Your pic shows the dials up too high anyway, and they can't measure the temp on the glass. The heat mat also needs regulation when used with a BP.
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
Originally Posted by distaff
Please calm down.
Analogues and strips are not accurate measuring devices. Your pic shows the dials up too high anyway, and they can't measure the temp on the glass. The heat mat also needs regulation when used with a BP.
The strip is accurate, I picked up a non contact thermo and it is showing 86 on the glass. The strip shows from 86-88.
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
Originally Posted by Pippers
The strip is accurate, I picked up a non contact thermo and it is showing 86 on the glass. The strip shows from 86-88.
The glass under the substrate on the floor of the tank?
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
What? Where did that come from? My intention is not to be agressive. If you knew me at all, you would know that I don't have that bone in my body.
I hear you saying that it's not your fault. If there is an underlying medical condition, it very well might not be. To get to that point, though, make sure the things that you can control are controlled. The condition of your snake is enough to say that something is not in control, so (again) focus on what you can control and rule out those things as you continue.
1) Finding a qualified vet to help you care for the prolapsed hemipenes is within your control.
2) Maintaining proper husbandry is within your control.
Taking action on these things is in no way saying that his current condition is entirely your fault. It is simply the responsible thing to do as a pet owner.
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Re: One and a half year old snake, 50 grams?
Originally Posted by Pippers
I'm sorry to say but I'm not quite sure, I don't have a means of finding out. Though I unplugged it.
I'm not sure how I will keep the temps and humidity up in a sterilite tub, there's no where to put any of the utilities. I live in the northeast and it gets very cold so I feel like the tank is the best option for customizing the conditions.
I think what I get from this is that you don't know how to put the heat lamp and heat pad on a tub? Sorry if I'm wrong. I have a tub for my snake and I also live in the upper northeast, so I assure you using a tub is perfectly possible. All you'll need to do is attach the heat pad (with a dimmer) on the bottom of the tub and somehow elevate the heat lamp a few inches above the tank. Drill many holes in a small area of the lid of the tub and that's how the heat will get in and how the snake breathes. Don't drill any other holes as that will let humidity escape. The dimmer in the heat pad will be used to make sure the heat pad is at the current temperature. When measuring for the temp of the heat pad, aim the temp gun at the bottom of the tank, under the bedding where the heat pad covers. My tub is a bit tall so I placed it under an unused desk and used the clamp from the heat lamp and clamped it onto the edge of the desk.
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