albino/pied project

[sk8er4life]

i was wonderin if i breed a 50% male and 66%female together would i get an albino/pied?

[Schlyne]

You'd have to be super lucky. If you hit, both snakes would then turn out to be 100% for that trait (albino or pied, depending on which one you were trying). If you didn't hit, the snakes could still be 100% het for that trait, but you still might not hit albino or pied on the first clutch. Also, if you didn't hit, it could turn out that one or both of the snakes were just normals, and not acutally het's at all.

[emroul]

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gen...recessive.html

That should help. Also, do a search for "genetics" in this forum and you should come up with a lot of results, and even perhaps the answer to your question.

Jennifer

[sk8er4life]

thanx! i was lookin at the classifieds for kingsnake and ball boutique was selling 50% het albino male for $30 and i was thinkin thats cheaper than some plain out normals!

[emroul]

...was selling 50% het albino male for $30 and i was thinkin thats cheaper than some plain out normals!

That's because a 50% POSSIBLE het for albino ball python literally means you have a 50% chance that the snake in question is in fact a 100% HET albino. It's kind of hard to grasp, but hopefully that makes sense. In other words, there is no such thing as a 50% het albino. The snake either carries the gene for albino (and is 100% het) or it does not (0%). The 50% and 66% het comes in when you breed a 100% het animal to a normal het for nothing animal. The results will include NO visual albinos. All of the offspring will appear normal, but statistically 50% or 66% (depending on the breeding) of the offspring WILL BE 100% het. Since heterozygous animals and normal animals look the same, they are marked either 50% or 66% possible het. You will not know exactly which of the animals are hets until you breed them and prove them out by producing the morph. This also means that there is a 50% chance that the animal is completely normal, and will never carry the gene to produce the trait (whether it be albino, pied, etc). I could go on and on, but hopefully that helps.

Jennifer

[emroul]

With all that said, It's much easier buying the DEFINATE 100% het animals. Proving out 50% or 66% possible hets takes years (5+) of dedicated work, and by then you could prove that the two animals you bought for the project in the beginning were normals. Unless you just want to fool around with it; but if that is the case, I wouldn't expect anything more than normal offspring (and if you do prove them out to be hets, that's just a PLUS!!). That's just me, I don't like to raise my hopes too high.

Jennifer

[sk8er4life]

what about a 100% and a 66% het together(im on a low budget!lol)

[Kara]

If you're going to buy a 100% & a 66% het...just make sure they're for the same mutation. IOW...it would make more sense to get a 100% het albino & a 66% het albino than two different hets for two different mutations. Poss. hets can take a looooong time to prove out.

K

[sk8er4life]

yea, so there is a possibility of getting a morph out of that?

and what about 66% and 66% hets together

[Cody]

Lets see if I can explain this for you. I'm not sure if this is all correct, but this is how I understand things.

100% het X Normal = 50% chance het, 50% chance normal

Morph X Normal = 100% hets

100% het X 100% het = 25% chance morph, 50% chance het, 25% chance normal

Morph X 100% het = 50% chance morph, 50% chance het

Morph X Morph = 100% morph