Yellow Bellies or normals?

[yzguy]

I wanted to see if people thought these were all Yellow bellies. Some local friends think they are, but I’m still not confident in my ability to tell. Paring was female YB to what turned out to be a normal male, and these are 4 out of 7 in the clutch (so it also seems reasonable on the odds).

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More pics at:
http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...pets/snake/52/









#53
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http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...pets/snake/53/










#54
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http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...pets/snake/54/










#57
More pics at:
http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...pets/snake/57/

[TessadasExotics]

Those bellies do not scream YB to me. They look more like they could be fire or vanilla. Would help with some better belly pics. The blue pics would be perfect if they had good lighting and weren't so blue.

[yzguy]

problem is, I can't get good lighting on those

the snake is on a piece of Plexiglas under a towel and I'm taking a pic from underneath, so not very good lighting from the bottom and I have to use a flash.

was an attempt to get a good belly shot, since the snakes never like to show them outside.

[AlexisFitzy]

They look like yellow bellies to me. Head stamp, belly checkering, bright rich colors, and some flames my yellow belly Sheik has all of the characteristics of these 4 snakes.


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[TessadasExotics]

Not all YB's have head stamps. Plenty of snakes have flames and or rich coloring. Not saying that these are not YB 100%. That's why I said better pics would help a lot. For me there is not enough speckling and way to much solid markings along the belly. I also know that some YB don't have the greatest markings.
Here is a great example of a YB with superb speckling.

[yzguy]

here is my attempt at getting better belly pics, outside (overcast, in the shade)

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[yzguy]

also, here are pics of mom:
http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...nake/femaleyb/

and a bit more of the story (last years clutch from the same parents had some stripes pop out, that I was trying to replicate this year, but did not, best one is my avatar):
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-stripe-babies

both Mom and dad were bought as yellow bellies from Amir about 6 years ago. I now know dad is not, but so far, most seem to think that mom is.

[KingPythons]

They all look like yellowbellies !

[AlexisFitzy]

Not all YB's have head stamps. Plenty of snakes have flames and or rich coloring. Not saying that these are not YB 100%. That's why I said better pics would help a lot. For me there is not enough speckling and way to much solid markings along the belly. I also know that some YB don't have the greatest markings.
Here is a great example of a YB with superb speckling.

That's true but I never said all yb's have head stamps, and were not talking about "plenty of snakes" were talking about a yb vs. a normal, and compared to a normal these guys are screaming yellow belly to me lol especially with the updated pics the op posted. But that's just me.


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[rlditmars]

With the first pics I was on the fence about a couple. However, the updated pics all look like nice YBs to me. Congrats.