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My first thought would be internal parasites as well so I'd for sure get a fecal done.
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Pine/Bull concerns and input
Not much experience with these guys. I'd contact 3skulls about it, he has some of these guys. I hope she gets back to normal for you!
1.0 normal bp
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Re: Pine/Bull concerns and input
Originally Posted by Daybreaker
My first thought would be internal parasites as well so I'd for sure get a fecal done.
Originally Posted by Mike41793
Not much experience with these guys. I'd contact 3skulls about it, he has some of these guys. I hope she gets back to normal for you!
Thanks for the responses and insight.
Last edited by Pyrate81; 11-24-2013 at 02:30 AM.
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Probably internal parasites - as they seem to be a fairly normal part of their gut flora in the wild. Pits - especially those in your neck of the woods - don't seem to be that affected by temperature swings unless they are extreme.
While they can cope with a background amount of parasites, if they become stressed due to a serious injury or being captured and placed in captivity, the stress can weaken the immune system tot he point where the balance becomes compromised.
How long has the animal been a captive?
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Re: Pine/Bull concerns and input
Originally Posted by Skiploder
Probably internal parasites - as they seem to be a fairly normal part of their gut flora in the wild. Pits - especially those in your neck of the woods - don't seem to be that affected by temperature swings unless they are extreme.
While they can cope with a background amount of parasites, if they become stressed due to a serious injury or being captured and placed in captivity, the stress can weaken the immune system tot he point where the balance becomes compromised.
How long has the animal been a captive?
Interesting. Ty for the input.
To answer your question: Its entire life. Its brother or sister is currently at a another nature center and is reported around 6-7 feet long.
These snakes were bred by a local colubrid breeder who apparently does not discriminate which snakes he puts together as there is also a hybrid black/everglades rat snake bred by him housed at the center.
-Yar
1.0.0 Albino Black Rat snake(Wafer)
0.0.1 California King snake(Oreo)
0.0.1 African Housesnake(Cupcake)
0.0.1 Honduran Milk snake(Blackjack)
0.0.2 Normal BP(Petey; Twix)
0.0.1 Yellow Rat Snake(Dijon)
0.0.1 Madagascar Speckled Hognose(Granola)[RIP]
1.0.0 Albino Nelson's Milk snake(Candy Cane)
1.0.0 Lesser BP(Creme Brulee)
1.0.0 Mojo BP(Brownie)
0.1.0 Black Motley Corn snake(Anisette)
0.0.1 Pueblan Milk snake[Fostering, Taco Grande]
0.1.0 West African Mud Turtle(Bulger)
0.2.0 Red Eared Slider(Squirtle, Turtwig)
1.0.0 Rat Terrorier(Ranger)
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Re: Pine/Bull concerns and input
Originally Posted by Pyrate81
Interesting. Ty for the input.
To answer your question: Its entire life. Its brother or sister is currently at a another nature center and is reported around 6-7 feet long.
These snakes were bred by a local colubrid breeder who apparently does not discriminate which snakes he puts together as there is also a hybrid black/everglades rat snake bred by him housed at the center.
Then I'm not so sure on the parasite issue.
I don't know how large the meals have been in comparison with the size and weight of the snake, but I usually feed my full grown pits two jumbo mice per week. I've found that anything more can result in over stressing the digestive system.
I'd give her a two to three week break, make sure her temps are good, add some bene-bac to her water and then feed a smaller meal.
Was the regurge a regurge - meaning she immediately threw up some of the prey items or was it a vomiting episode where she actually partially digested them?
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Re: Pine/Bull concerns and input
I got the center to switch from "large" mice to jumbo mice. The "large" mice they were buying and feeding 2-3 every 2-3 weeks were small adults and about 1/2 to 3/4 the thickness of the snake. The jumbos they get now are about the thickness of the snake.
The vomiting happened about 3-4 days post feeding. I was not there to see what came up but it was described as 1 mouse was partially digested and the other 2 mice were still in tact. I'll leave her off food for 2-3 weeks opposed the standard week after vomiting or a regurge.
-Yar
1.0.0 Albino Black Rat snake(Wafer)
0.0.1 California King snake(Oreo)
0.0.1 African Housesnake(Cupcake)
0.0.1 Honduran Milk snake(Blackjack)
0.0.2 Normal BP(Petey; Twix)
0.0.1 Yellow Rat Snake(Dijon)
0.0.1 Madagascar Speckled Hognose(Granola)[RIP]
1.0.0 Albino Nelson's Milk snake(Candy Cane)
1.0.0 Lesser BP(Creme Brulee)
1.0.0 Mojo BP(Brownie)
0.1.0 Black Motley Corn snake(Anisette)
0.0.1 Pueblan Milk snake[Fostering, Taco Grande]
0.1.0 West African Mud Turtle(Bulger)
0.2.0 Red Eared Slider(Squirtle, Turtwig)
1.0.0 Rat Terrorier(Ranger)
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Ty for the input. I'll see if there is a local store or vet that carries bene bac to start her up asap. I'll also see when I can get a vet visit for her this week.
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-Yar
1.0.0 Albino Black Rat snake(Wafer)
0.0.1 California King snake(Oreo)
0.0.1 African Housesnake(Cupcake)
0.0.1 Honduran Milk snake(Blackjack)
0.0.2 Normal BP(Petey; Twix)
0.0.1 Yellow Rat Snake(Dijon)
0.0.1 Madagascar Speckled Hognose(Granola)[RIP]
1.0.0 Albino Nelson's Milk snake(Candy Cane)
1.0.0 Lesser BP(Creme Brulee)
1.0.0 Mojo BP(Brownie)
0.1.0 Black Motley Corn snake(Anisette)
0.0.1 Pueblan Milk snake[Fostering, Taco Grande]
0.1.0 West African Mud Turtle(Bulger)
0.2.0 Red Eared Slider(Squirtle, Turtwig)
1.0.0 Rat Terrorier(Ranger)
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