I emailed Reptile Tubs and they said they could ship the biggest enclosure, the VE-175, for $25 with the lid. He said he could fit other enclosures inside the big one and possibly combine shipping.(I emailed him about combining shipping, and waiting to hear back). Mr. Erb was very fast in responding. I emailed him about 2 separate enclosures: the VE-175 52"x 20"x 14"($30+$25ship) and the MCB-LD 24"x 16"x 12"($9+$7ship). The big one seems like a great final enclosure for an adult IMO. The second one seems good for a yearling or so. The enclosures seem really well priced, and if he can combine the shipping by sticking smaller enclosures in the biggun, then that's all the better. I'll let ya'll know.