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Treat or freeze?
Stupid question but do you treat RI or freeze the snakes?
I rescued some bps and have been giving injections and they are improving but have been advised by 8 breeders to put them all in the frezer. They state that ri can never truly be cured.
I just want your opinions on what you do and why.
Thanks
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What do you mean, "put them in the freezer"? I know that you are asking whether you should put them down or try to save them (and unfortunately I do not have an answer for you on that)... but if you do put them down, definitely do not just stick them in the freezer!! You would absolutely need to find a more humane alternative to doing this, as freezing is a slow (and I would think painful) process
Sorry if I am misunderstanding.
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Re: Treat or freeze?
I want the breeders's names so I know never to buy from them.
Even IF an RI were untreatable, which it isn't, euthing a snake by freezing it is cruel and inhumane.
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1) Freezing is NOT a humane method of euthanasia. So we don't put anybody in the freezer.
2)RI is a pretty broad term, so it isn't accurate to just make a blanket statement that RIs can never be cured. Did you have a culture done to find out what you are dealing with? When someone says a snake has a RI, they are talking about symptoms, unless a culture has already been done. And there are lots of things that can cause a snake to show respiratory symptoms. It could be bacterial, viral, fungal, or environmental. Even if it's bacterial, if the bacteria isn't sensitive to the antibiotic you are using, you are wasting your time.
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Re: Treat or freeze?
Originally Posted by NH93
What do you mean, "put them in the freezer"?
That is exactly what they said they do when they get a sick animal.
1.0 Yellow belly - Squelch
1.0 Spider 100% het albino- Gru
1.0 Orange Ghost - Nefario
2.2 Normal - Ginger, Shelly, Gus, Pumpernickle
0.1 Granite - Margo
0.1 100% DH Snow (VPI)
2.0 Bearded dragons - Spike & Chef
4 Crested geckos
4.0 Dachshunds Winston, Hugh, Gilligan, and Cowboy.
1.0 fostered Dachshunds currently Archie
29 Dachshunds adopted through our house to date.
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Re: Treat or freeze?
Originally Posted by Elusive Dream
That is exactly what they said they do when they get a sick animal.
Then most likely it's a business decision where the breeder has decided that when the cost of treatment > cost of animal, dump/write off the animal. While I understand the decision as a business owner and for inanimate objects it makes sense, it's not one I agree with when it comes to living animals.
So, who are these eight people?
Last edited by bcr229; 10-18-2013 at 01:13 PM.
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Re: Treat or freeze?
Originally Posted by FireStorm
RI is a pretty broad term, so it isn't accurate to just make a blanket statement that RIs can never be cured. Did you have a culture done to find out what you are dealing with? When someone says a snake has a RI, they are talking about symptoms, unless a culture has already been done. And there are lots of things that can cause a snake to show respiratory symptoms. It could be bacterial, viral, fungal, or environmental. Even if it's bacterial, if the bacteria isn't sensitive to the antibiotic you are using, you are wasting your time.
I took all of them to the herp vet. He said they have upper RI but the lower is clear on all of them. He gave them shots at the office and sent me home with syringes and baytril for 30 days for all of them.
The rack temps and humiditiy have been spot on.
1.0 Yellow belly - Squelch
1.0 Spider 100% het albino- Gru
1.0 Orange Ghost - Nefario
2.2 Normal - Ginger, Shelly, Gus, Pumpernickle
0.1 Granite - Margo
0.1 100% DH Snow (VPI)
2.0 Bearded dragons - Spike & Chef
4 Crested geckos
4.0 Dachshunds Winston, Hugh, Gilligan, and Cowboy.
1.0 fostered Dachshunds currently Archie
29 Dachshunds adopted through our house to date.
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Re: Treat or freeze?
Originally Posted by Elusive Dream
I took all of them to the herp vet. He said they have upper RI but the lower is clear on all of them. He gave them shots at the office and sent me home with syringes and baytril for 30 days for all of them.
The rack temps and humiditiy have been spot on.
Did he do a culture to find out what is causing the RI?
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Re: Treat or freeze?
Originally Posted by bcr229
So, who are these eight people?
I will pm you the list if you want it.
1.0 Yellow belly - Squelch
1.0 Spider 100% het albino- Gru
1.0 Orange Ghost - Nefario
2.2 Normal - Ginger, Shelly, Gus, Pumpernickle
0.1 Granite - Margo
0.1 100% DH Snow (VPI)
2.0 Bearded dragons - Spike & Chef
4 Crested geckos
4.0 Dachshunds Winston, Hugh, Gilligan, and Cowboy.
1.0 fostered Dachshunds currently Archie
29 Dachshunds adopted through our house to date.
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Re: Treat or freeze?
Originally Posted by Elusive Dream
I will pm you the list if you want it.
I would like the list as well, so I know who not to deal with
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