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Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
 Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1
Dogs are NOT little people, no matter how the media tries to portray them. Dogs are also (contrary to popular belief) not carnivores. The very makeup of their dental arcade proves that; they have molars and premolars in copious numbers. Cats only have one set of molars, and they are vestigial at best. This makes cats carnivores.
The presence of premolars shows that dogs were designed to be omnivores. In the wild, dogs are more like bears actually; they will eat many berries and other plant-based items.
Touche.
I agree dogs are not little people, and behaviorally should not be treated as such. But your argument here only proves my point further- They are omnivorous mammals, like us. Corn is NOT good for us. I don't even have to good scientific evidence for that one. I know it's out there.
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Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1
I just wonder where the scientific data is at, that's all.
Dogs are NOT little people, no matter how the media tries to portray them. Dogs are also (contrary to popular belief) not carnivores. The very makeup of their dental arcade proves that; they have molars and premolars in copious numbers. Cats only have one set of molars, and they are vestigial at best. This makes cats carnivores.
The presence of premolars shows that dogs were designed to be omnivores. In the wild, dogs are more like bears actually; they will eat many berries and other plant-based items.
This difference is also seen in the severity of infection from dog vs cat bites. Cats, being carnivores, are more likely to cause severe infection in their bites. Dog bites, on the other hand, are less prone to these deadly septic infections.
You're mistaken. Their molars are somewhat flat for grinding down meat and bones. But their premolars aren't flat at all. They aren't meant to grind vegetable matter. Their premolars are for slicing meat.
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Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
My dog is currently on a specific Science Diet allergy food. If I had my choice I'd feed him Nutro brand dog food. 
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Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
Originally Posted by Anya
Touche.
Corn is NOT good for us.
too MUCH corn is not good for us; this is where I don't get people. Get a couple studies in rats that show corn is bad for humans and suddenly it must be bad for dogs too. Do you know what they usually do in those kind of studies to the rats?? I had a friend who worked in the NIH; they force feed the rats the compounds they are analyzing and look at the effects then. Or they feed them to genetically screwed up animals that CANT metabolize the oils and see what happens. It's never on "real" human analogs...
I need to stop posting in this thread before I start really going off lol
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Blah! Fine! you're smarter than us all, Meph. We bow down to your science-diet worshiping ways.
(You remind me waaaaaay too much of my dad. Still.)
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Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1
too MUCH corn is not good for us; this is where I don't get people. Get a couple studies in rats that show corn is bad for humans and suddenly it must be bad for dogs too. Do you know what they usually do in those kind of studies to the rats?? I had a friend who worked in the NIH; they force feed the rats the compounds they are analyzing and look at the effects then. Or they feed them to genetically screwed up animals that CANT metabolize the oils and see what happens. It's never on "real" human analogs...
I need to stop posting in this thread before I start really going off lol
You keep saying "corn" but the ingredient in SD is "corn gluten meal"... Theres a difference.
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it has nothing to do with being more or less intelligent;
foolish ones put faith in every word that floats by:
OH NO corn is bad!!!
OH NO microwaves are bad!!!
Give it time and the pet food industry will shift to a "Protein is the devil" stance, and then everyone will be against that.
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Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
Originally Posted by Anya
Blah! Fine! you're smarter than us all, Meph. We bow down to your science-diet worshiping ways.
(You remind me waaaaaay too much of my dad. Still.)
I've heard girls tend to marry men like their fathers. Aren't you and meph both in cali....?
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Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1
it has nothing to do with being more or less intelligent;
foolish ones put faith in every word that floats by:
OH NO corn is bad!!!
OH NO microwaves are bad!!!
Give it time and the pet food industry will shift to a "Protein is the devil" stance, and then everyone will be against that.
Corn gluten meal***
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Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
Originally Posted by Mike41793
Which, if used properly is a good source of cysteine, a normal amino acid found in just about anything else.
I don't doubt that it can have adverse affects, but to say that just because a food has corn (corn gluten meal) in it it must be bad is horse hockey
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