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    Hard to tell in the pic, but the nostrils don't look right either.... Will be interesting to see if they thrive or not.

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    Found this on wiki.... shows how the "heat pit" works. It's true, there should be a hole. So this snake doesn't have holes, therefore it doesn't have heat pits. huh.... *twiddles thumbs*


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    Gorgeous snake. I shall withhold my personal judgement until we see complications arise.
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    The clarity of the patterns is amazing but I'm with the rest I'm disappointed about the heat pits. I'm insanely curious to see how it effects the two snakes.
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    This is such an interesting genetic trait and it should be learned from and studied but I kind of hope it doesn't become popular in the industry. It really seems like there will be a few health/husbandry issues arising with them. I hope for BHB & the snakes sake that they are perfectly healthy though! It really is a beautiful animal.

    It also looks like there isn't an ocular scale?? I wonder if that will lead to any eye complications.
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    Wow, thats beautiful
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    Yeah, the sneak-peek photo Brian put up didn't make it look like an ocular scale existed.
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    this seems to be the post 1st shed picture. the eyes look fine to me.


    about the heat pits, i have this little video about the evolution of the eye. since we are talking about heat pits, look only at the first 3 steps explained in the video. and replace "light" with "infrared radiation", and "photo-sensitive cells" with "heat-sensitive cells".

    also, only the first 50 seconds of the video are relevant.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEKyqIJkuDQ

    thats what is lost when you cover the heat pits with skin, which is intransparent to infrared. you reduce the heat-sensing ability from the third evolutionary step in the video, crude pinhole camera, to the first step in the video, which is merely detecting the presence or absence of infrared radiation.

    i suspect it will be hard for them to hit their prey. blind BPs that have no problem with hitting their prey on first try show that the heat pits are what enables BPs to do so. worst-case scenario: assist feeding.

    and in the image it really looks much like the deme ball, which means, heat pits completely covered. even at that angle, you should see 4 heat pits, but there is only smooth skin.

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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    It looks really cool.... from the neck back. The head is just wrong. I love BPs for the way their adorable little heads look. This one just lacks the cute factor for me. Still cool that it was done, but I don't see it as a must have for me.

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    I have to agree. The head just doesn't look right. The shape isn't right without the scales and the more I look at it the more the areas around the eye and the lips just slightly creep me out. I don't think "awh" like I do with all other hatchlings. I love the clarity of the pattern but I will never own a scaleless even if they become popular.
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