Best way to pre-kill?

[Wizard]

I agree, Captain Spaulding is one disturbing looking dood. I'm thinking of changing my avatar to something a little more kind and warmhearted.

[Inarikins]

if you use gas, i would advise against the use of CO2.

its rather quick, but when mammals detect a CO2 increase in the blood stream they react with panic and a feeling of asphyxiation before they die.

i think its more humane to use a gas that prevent such a CO2 buildup.

nitrogen or helium is much slower, but since there is no CO2 buildup they fall asleep peacefully.

optimal would be nitrous oxide / laughing gas. super fast and super painless, it knocks them out within a few seconds and they feel euphoria. you can cheaply buy single-use cartridges that are usually used in whipped cream dispensers. its legal to own as long as you dont use it as a drug.

edit @ tribal: i think its the mass murderer clown from the Rob Zombie movie "house of 1000 corpses"

Why are you always spouting this off? CO2 and Cervical dislocation are the only two methods approved by the vet boards for humane, in-home euthanization of small animals. You don't just pump in a killing dose of CO2 right away. You start off small and slowly introduce it. The rat will calmly fall asleep at which point you crank it up and kill the rat. No stress, no panic. Also, so far as I know... the whipped cream cartridges are also CO2.

[Pythonfriend]

Why are you always spouting this off? CO2 and Cervical dislocation are the only two methods approved by the vet boards for humane, in-home euthanization of small animals. You don't just pump in a killing dose of CO2 right away. You start off small and slowly introduce it. The rat will calmly fall asleep at which point you crank it up and kill the rat. No stress, no panic. Also, so far as I know... the whipped cream cartridges are also CO2.

i keep saying it because from my personal experience of inhaling different gases, i can tell that CO2 is really nasty while other gases are not. Noone who has not actually tried inhaling different gases can convince me otherwise, sorry about that.

if you start slow, the rats will feel really terrible more slowly. also ive seen footage where you can tell the rhodents have cramps and convulsions and are panicking when CO2 is used.

it feels a bit like this looks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFf-kW1E0Tc

[iCandiBallPythons]

Flying elbow drop

[Rickys_Reptiles]

i keep saying it because from my personal experience of inhaling different gases

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[interloc]

So we are supposed to take advise from someone who huffs gas?? Hahahahaha funny.

[Crazymonkee]

So we are supposed to take advise from someone who huffs gas?? Hahahahaha funny.

My thoughts exactly!!
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[Mike41793]

Pythonfriend: The air we breath is 78% nitrogen. I think it would take a ton to kill a rat with it.... Nikki and Tim have both provided evidence OF ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC STUDIES that prove that gassing rats with CO2 IS humane. You're seriously calling these studies BS and trying to trump them with your own experience inhaling gasses? How are we supposed to believe you? Was any of this inhaling done in a remotely scientific way? If so, please describe. Also, last time i checked you were a human, not a rat. So i'm also doubting the validity of your findings and the fact that you're comparing them to rodents so freely.

Next time you go on a huffing kick, give CO a go.

[interloc]

Next time you go on a huffing kick, give CO a go.

I'm fairly certain mike that we mustn't be telling people to go kill themselves. Why I agree with most of what you said, this last line is quite uncalled for. Say you're sorry mike.

[Mike41793]

I'm fairly certain mike that we mustn't be telling people to go kill themselves. Why I agree with most of what you said, this last line is quite uncalled for. Say you're sorry mike.

CO can kill humans, maybe it can kill rats too? He already said he's huffed gasses, maybe he's already tried it. That could explain a few things lmao