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    Lightbulb I need some opinions... (YB x Normal)

    Thanks in advance for any help with these guys!

    So, this isn't quite your standard "Are these hatchlings yellow bellies or not?" post. I had a couple odd things pop up in these three and I don't quite trust myself to make a judgement on what is going on here.

    Firstly, the sire of this clutch was purchased as a Yellow Belly and came from a proven Yellow Belly sire. The breeder told me there was a chance that he was a yellow belly chocolate (as was the sire), but he wasn't sure. I didn't think much about it until his babies hatched out this year.

    The dam is a wild caught normal. She's always had a nice, light coloration and a pretty clean belly.

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    The hatchlings (hatched on 06/21/2013):

    #1 - has three weird, gray patches along one side of its neck.










    #2 - has dark, rich colors. It's by far the darkest of the three. It just figure out eating on its own, finally. It's a little smaller than the other two right now.








    #3 - has a really busy pattern and lots of blushing/flames.








    Thanks again for any help! I really appreciate it!

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    Anybody?

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    Well...the mom is a genetic blackback. And the dark one is really pretty. But I don't know anything about Chocolates.
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-yellow-belly/

    Not too much on WoBP either.
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    1.0 Hypo Clown; 1.0 Enchi Freeway; 0.1 Ivory pos. pastel, super pastel, butter (Penelope); 0.1 Hypo Chocolate GHI Pastel pos Vanilla (Smokey); 0.1 YB pied; 0.1 enchi YB/asphalt; 0.1 VPI Axanthic (Special Cookies); 0.1 Albino pos YB; 0.1 Hypo Clown; 0.1 Hypo Spinner
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    1.0 Coachwhip; 1.0 Lavender ph hypo hoggie; 0.1 het hypo ph lavender hoggie (Fingermuncher)

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    I need some opinions... (YB x Normal)

    Not sure either :/ but #2 and 3 are hotttt!! 👍👍🍻

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    I need some opinions... (YB x Normal)

    As far as I know Chocolate is a super-subtle morph, so I won't be much help there. Baby 1's grey patches could be paradoxical? The patterning looks a bit different inside those splotches, which is what makes me think.

    I could not even begin to tell you what's up with contestants 2 and 3. All I have to say is WOW to number 2. I think I'm in love with that baby.


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    a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
    b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020

    3.2 Cats (Fury, Leviathan, Walter, Chell, Amelie); 2.0 Dogs (Bjorn, Anubis); 2.1 Ferrets (Bran, Tormund, Arya); 0.1 Beardie (Nefertiti); 0.1 Slider Turtle (Species uncertain) (Papaya); 2.0 Hermit Crabs (Tamatoa, Sushi); 0.1 Conure (Mauii); Two Axolotyls (Quetzl and Unnamed); Two Tree Frogs (Pluto and Colossus); One Anole (Zeus); One Crestie (Noferatu); 3.0 Guinea Pigs (Paco, Poncho and Piccolo); 0.1 Pink Toe T (Azula)

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    2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)

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    Well..I'd say looking at #2 that the sire is definitely Chocolate. The other 2 are really interesting. They both have the white outlines on their side pattern and #3 almost looks ghost-like. I'd say you might have stumbled on some new genetics with mom.

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    I need some opinions... (YB x Normal)

    Thank you all for your input!

    As far as #1 goes, some I have asked are thinking Shatter but I can barely find ANYTHING about that particular mutation anywhere.

    I was hoping #2 was a chocolate, that opens up some new possibilities! I'm definitely going to keep an eye on it as it gets older. Same goes for #3.

    I feel like I got a real mixed bag with this lot - it's kind of exciting.

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    3 looks like yb more then the others

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    I don't know about one and two, but I think three definitely has yb.
    1.1 Spider BP (Viserion/Visenya)
    1.0 RDR line Phantom BP (Balerion)
    1.0 Black Pastel BP (Drogon)
    1.0 Orange Ghost BP (Rhaegal)
    1.0 Cinnamon YB BP (Meraxes)
    1.0 Pastel Champagne BP (Vhagar)
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    0.2 Pastel BP (Obara and Loreza)
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    I'd say #3 definitely has YB, #1 and 2 do not. If #2 is a male I would breed it back to mom.

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