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    Gahhh decisions decisions!

    Okay so for my last pairings...
    My "high end" pairings...

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    Male champagne to 3 females.
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    Gahhh decisions decisions!

    I don't like champs so I don't really like those pairings. Lol. Sorry I'm no help.

    You should get a different high end male and pair him instead. Third female should be an enchi spotnose.
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    I would not do champ to bee as the champ spider is considered a lethal combo.
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    Gahhh decisions decisions!

    Id go Kingpin for sure. I like that pairing! Lesser Champs are smokin aswrll as Pin Champs!

    Id also re think the Bee personally. Pastel Champs dont do it for me and Spider to Champ is deadly.

    Defintly need to get a Enchi or Mojave combo in there. Best of luck!


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    Re: Gahhh decisions decisions!

    its unusual to breed a 1-gene male to two or 3 two-gene females, normally the male has the highest number of genes.

    that is because you need fewer males than females for breeding, and males are cheaper.

    so if you want to work with champagne, and the other two females (kingpin and bumblebee) are set, i would say: let the third female be a champagne, and get a 2-gene male. maybe pinstripe enchi or something? i agree champagne x spider should be avoided, and with a 2-gene male and a champagne female every clutch you get can be a bit more awesome, because you hit more 3-gene combos and can now hit 4-genes as well.

    just my two cents.

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    Never really been a fan of champ combos but the kingpin to champ would do just fine. Like others said champ to spider is deadly so i would pick something up you can afford to pair with your bumblebee or trade your champ for something that is compatible with both the females you have.
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    Re: Gahhh decisions decisions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    I would not do champ to bee as the champ spider is considered a lethal combo.
    Why is that?

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    Re: Gahhh decisions decisions!

    Quote Originally Posted by timely.grace View Post
    Why is that?

    they just die?

    spider and champagne are both known to cause a wobble. super champagne is also lethal, and super spider is mysteriously absent.

    you can only have one of these genes.

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    Re: Gahhh decisions decisions!

    Quote Originally Posted by timely.grace View Post
    Why is that?
    They either dont make it through incubation and those that do hatch out die shortly there after. Some good info on these vids regarding lethal combos:

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/vi...erd-video/315/
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/vi...erd-video/316/
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    Lol Ive pretty much completely changed my thought process around now
    I hate makin these decidions sometimes but Im pretty sure Im gonna go with...

    Male kingpin to 3 females :
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