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    Line breeding acceptable,unacceptable or a grey area?

    A couple of examples:
    I have a unrelated pr het clowns. I breed those and produce a female clown. Then I have options. 1.I could trade her for an unrelated and breed her to my male het. 2.Could just breed her back to my male het(line breeding). 3.could breed her to another morph then breed those to my original two hets (grandparent to grand kid).
    Rdr has a very reduced clown it must be from selective and line breeding.
    I haven't heard a lot about ethics of snake breeding.
    Economically and practically there must be a lot of dads to daughters going on.
    daddy platty has to be this way. Right?
    Sorry. Ralph Davis not meaning to pick on you. Love your stuff.

    My personal example bought a citrus queen bee male. I don't want to breed it into my "normal pastel line".
    So I put him to 2 normals and breed him to those females.
    Dad to daughter is that to close for reptiles.

    In a nut shell what does everyone think on this?
    My personal opinion was to follow my example 1 above one the het clown and queen bee and avoid parent to kid crosses. But I also feel line and selective breeding has a place ie Brian Gundy's gold blush Mojave, beautiful.

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    Re: Line breeding acceptable,unacceptable or a grey area?

    Quote Originally Posted by QTEpythons View Post
    A couple of examples:
    I have a unrelated pr het clowns. I breed those and produce a female clown. Then I have options. 1.I could trade her for an unrelated and breed her to my male het. 2.Could just breed her back to my male het(line breeding). 3.could breed her to another morph then breed those to my original two hets (grandparent to grand kid).
    Rdr has a very reduced clown it must be from selective and line breeding.
    I haven't heard a lot about ethics of snake breeding.
    Economically and practically there must be a lot of dads to daughters going on.
    daddy platty has to be this way. Right?
    Sorry. Ralph Davis not meaning to pick on you. Love your stuff.

    My personal example bought a citrus queen bee male. I don't want to breed it into my "normal pastel line".
    So I put him to 2 normals and breed him to those females.
    Dad to daughter is that to close for reptiles.

    In a nut shell what does everyone think on this?
    My personal opinion was to follow my example 1 above one the het clown and queen bee and avoid parent to kid crosses. But I also feel line and selective breeding has a place ie Brian Gundy's gold blush Mojave, beautiful.
    Line breeding/inbreeding is generally acceptable and a common practice in reptile breeding.
    You don't see the same negative effects as you do in mammalian breeding. But it's always good to outcross with that being said.
    In order to prove out morphs or recessive genes, the fastest and easiest way would be line breeding (mother - son/father - daughter).
    Many multi gened sons replace their single gened fathers as breeding studs.

    You also have to be conscious of what you're breeding too. If you hatch out a kinked offspring, it would be safe to assume he wouldn't be good breeding material in case it was a heritable defect. So breeding healthy quality specimens is the key.

    Overall, it would be safe to line breed a few generations before bringing in new blood.
    Like you mentioned, that's how Brian Gundy's Gold Blush came around; selective line breeding.
    Last edited by satomi325; 02-04-2013 at 05:36 PM.

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    Re: Line breeding acceptable,unacceptable or a grey area?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    They inbreed in the wild and have for millions of years.
    "Excuse me, before we lock, your not related to so and so are you"? Lmao...:p

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    Re: Line breeding acceptable,unacceptable or a grey area?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDooLittle View Post
    "Excuse me, before we lock, your not related to so and so are you"? Lmao...:p

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    LOL. I think this is what's going with my clown hets.

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