How is Andrew Wyatt getting your info?

[wilomn]

Well, for the icing on the cake, I never got an email, but I never joined usark either. Something about wyatt put me off the first time I saw him and something him about always set my 'be cautious' setting to High.

So, never joined the one, never got the email from the other, even though this is such a small community and there is so much overlap.

[Kaorte]

Herp Alliance has now released the following statement via Facebook:

"Herp Alliance
Herp Alliance is getting spammed with questions since USARK issued its newsletter tonight which implies that Herp Alliance is using USARK's mailing list.

Herp Alliance is not using USARK's mailing list. The Herp Alliance mailing list is from Andrew Wyatt's personal contact list (one of several lists) from contacts he has acquired over many years and from requests through the web site and Facebook page. Our mailing from yesterday went to fewer than 2000 people. USARK's mailing list is almost 10,000.

A lot of assumptions are being made that are incorrect."

Yeah sorry that is a load of BS! I never personally gave my email to him. He gathered up a list of emails from USARK, plain and simple.

[mikel81]

I guess it's worth noting that I always get duplicate usark emails. I must have signed up for the newsletter on one and donated with another.

Well, I also got duplicate emails this week from wyatt. If he didn't steal the usark mailing list then I couldn't tell you where he got both of my emails from.

[chago11]

Well, for the icing on the cake, I never got an email, but I never joined usark either. Something about wyatt put me off the first time I saw him and something him about always set my 'be cautious' setting to High.

So, never joined the one, never got the email from the other, even though this is such a small community and there is so much overlap.

Same here. After seeing the thread on him screwing some guy that bought a few grand of snakes and never received them and it took a few years to resolve. I still can't believe people support the scum

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Same here. After seeing the thread on him screwing some guy that bought a few grand of snakes and never received them and it took a few years to resolve. I still can't believe people support the scum

You might have your facts and names mix up here with someone who has the same initials

[mainbutter]

Well, for the icing on the cake, I never got an email, but I never joined usark either. Something about wyatt put me off the first time I saw him and something him about always set my 'be cautious' setting to High.

So, never joined the one, never got the email from the other, even though this is such a small community and there is so much overlap.

Same thing here.

[Skiploder]

Apparently, this is no big deal. Last night I took a big sip of the Wyatt Fanboi Kool-Aid and am now seeing things in a whole new light.

We should all have no issue with the head of USARK leaving the organization, starting a rival organization and using USARK's mailing list to SPAM hobbyists for support (read: MONEY).

After all, USHA needs about $200K a year in donations just to cover his salary and travel expenses.

So all of you need to shut up and stop spamming his new facebook and just send in your money.

It has been very impertinent of you all to question Little Lord Wyatt-leroy's decisions and his actions. After all, no one has fought harder for our rights than him. No one has sacrificed so much for us. No one has forced more lame duck bills to expire naturally than him and no one has introduced more ground breaking BMPs than him....

Oh, wait, BMPs are now bad.....scratch that - no one has opposed more ground-breaking BMPs than him. Ignore that sworn testimony stating otherwise........BMPs are bad and Wyatt would never, ever introduce them in places like South Carolina or Virginia despite what the minutes of his testimony show.

Remember friends, when Wyatt forces legislators intro a compromise it's a good thing - a powerful move that is commemorated by an Orwellian blog entry. But when PIJAC does it, or as I predict when the new USARK does it, it is a weak thing.......a mewling maneuver to be looked at with utter contempt.

The brave hero who allowed 4 of 9 species - um, wait SAVED 5 of 9 species from the Lacey Act deserves your unquestioned loyalty. Do not question his decisions, and most of all, you have no right to be infuriated that he is SPAMMING you with emails. You should be appreciative that he is sacrificing his life for your right to keep snakes. You should accept his sacrifice and praise it with Homeric and Tass-esque blog entries that extoll his handsome profile, his undaunted courage and the fact that he only makes a third of Wayne Pacelle's salary on a mere fraction of HSUS's budget.

I remember when Andrew Wyatt craftily allowed Wayne Pacelle to verbally bend him over on NPR. It was brilliant move. As Wayne skewered him, pimp-slapped him and Stooge-Fu'd him on the air, I came to the realization that the Herp Community had a rare beast fronting their fight - a real master of strategy - the Erwin Rommel of our time.

At one point, as I listened to Wyatt feebly try to argue with Wayne, I thought "Only a true leader will be able to claim some sort of victory from this embarrassing show of impotence". As Pacelle zipped up his fly and kicked Wyatt to the curb I eagerly awaited the response of the Herp Nation to this NPR Waterloo.

The next day, true to form, Our Dear Leader was back on the soapbox, with his cadre of acolytes blaming the radio host and admiring the passive and patient way that the Leader of the Herp Nation bore this verbal raping. I decided at that time that - like the mighty cockroach - we had a leader that could survive the most brutal of catastrophes, only to emerge again to proliferate and spread his word of gospell.

Hallelujah.

USHA, stop calling people who question your questionable moves spammers. If you continue to do so, you won't be able to cover the $200K a year travel and salary package for your President and I won't be able to listen to another Pacelle - Wyatt debate. It is important, if only for my amusement that you stick around long enough to have that happen.

[Kaorte]

Skip, can you like, write a book? I don't care what its about. I just like reading what you write.

This whole situation just sucks. I want to support the reptile hobby as much as the next person.. but this whole thing is just putting me off... I don't know who to support. I don't know where my money is going. I just wish more people were paying attention to the business practices of these organizations.

Even if he did receive our emails from his "private" list like they claim, it is not okay to solicit people like this without their consent. He should know better than to take shortcuts like this.

[3skulls]

Calling us spammers, what a joke.

[Cendalla]

Skip, can you like, write a book? I don't care what its about. I just like reading what you write.

Agreed. That was eloquent, visual, AND expressed my thoughts and feelings succinctly.