The Official Birth Defect Documentary *Graphic picture warning*

[satomi325]

We all know that birth defects and other issues will be present when producing any kind of animal in large numbers. This is not a thread asking which defect is associated with what morph.
I wanted to start a thread to document the numbers associated with birth defects.

Please post the following when reporting a defect:
1) Morph
2) The defect
3) Possible reasoning for the defect (i.e. random defect, incubation temperature drop/spike, affiliated with morph, etc. etc.)
4) The parental pairing
5) Total number of clutches and/or hatchlings you have produced
6) Photos
7) Any other information that you wish to include. (Maybe post how many defective hatchlings you have produced to date)

So please update this thread with any kind of defect that may occur in your own clutches.

Thank you.

[gsarchie]

I'd actually love to see this thread take off so that I can see what I may have to deal with myself in the near future, however I don't wish defects upon anyone who does produce some babies.

[rlditmars]

I agree with gsarchie. This would be very informative. I am especially curious as there seems to be quite a few snakes being born without one or both eyes this year. I have only been on the forum less than a year so I don't know if this is typical during the hatching season, or is a more recent development.

[Mike41793]

You get this idea from that discussion on FB lol?

OMG GUYS NO MORE BREEDING BC OF POTENTIAL BIRTH DEFECTS!!! Haha

[OhhWatALoser]

3) Possible reasoning for the defect (i.e. random defect, incubation temperature drop/spike, affiliated with morph, etc. etc.)

what are we calling defects? or do you want someone posting every time they have a clutch of spiders or champs?

[Kirks_Herps]

this hatchling is in my didnt hit the odds post
c.h. female to a cinny male
cinny missing one eye
my t-stat in my inc. went bad at aprox. week 5- 6 of incubatation dropping the temps to 84-85 degrees for 5 - 7 days all 5 eggs hatched 4 normals and 1 cinny all other hatchlings are without defects

[satomi325]

I am especially curious as there seems to be quite a few snakes being born without one or both eyes this year. I have only been on the forum less than a year so I don't know if this is typical during the hatching season, or is a more recent development.

This is the exact reason why I wanted to start this.
My friend just hatched out an eyeless fused baby. And I recalled all the other eyeless babies this year. We thought it could be informative to start a database of some sort.

You get this idea from that discussion on FB lol?

OMG GUYS NO MORE BREEDING BC OF POTENTIAL BIRTH DEFECTS!!! Haha

Sort of. My friend who runs that page gave me the idea indirectly. This should be a place to publicly document defects in order to determine what's common and how common. Is there a link between similar deformities? Just a place to learn in general.

what are we calling defects? or do you want someone posting every time they have a clutch of spiders or champs?

Let's start off with physical anomalies for now. Morph related or not. If someone can come up with additional requirements, feel free.

Correct me if I'm wrong here.
All spiders have a wobble. Just different degrees of it. I would think it's pointless to post up every single snake with the spider gene since we already know the wobble is either the spider gene or a gene tightly attached to the spider gene. Same goes for the other wobbling morphs.




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[gsarchie]

I will say that I have never seen so much as a hint of wobble in my sppider - ever. I'll definitely pay close attention to any babies that she has for a wobble.

[mykee]

How will you determine the difference between a true birth defect and human error (incubator spike, etc)?
I think a little more thought needs to go into this before "launch".

[spankege]

I think will be a good way to learn about the potential defects possible in all morphs. It should be human error or natural defect. Just my 0.02.
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