What is Wobble?

[BPro927]

I know it is in spiders, but can someone tell me what are the signs and why is it so undisired?

thanks
Brian

[Rob]

It's a neurological trait in the spider gene. They will kind of sway their head in different angles, they will lay on their backs sometimes, some will cork screw. Honestly it doesn't effect anything, they eat and breed just as well if not better from what is have seen, then any snake. Spiders are a great morph and should be in every collectors rack.

Edit- I just noticed you have a honey bee. So you should know what it is. All spider gene snakes have it to some degree, some are a lot more obvious. Also somethings can really trigger it, such as feeding.

[Skittles1101]

It's way overrated in my opinion. My spider has a wobble and she's one of my favorites
A wobble can be as subtle as a slight tilt of the head to as severe as corkscrewing. It can get better or worse with age, and is completely random as far as anyone knows. A spider with little-no wobble can have offspring that corkscrews, and vice versa.

[BPro927]

I dont think i have noticed anything.

When he eats he sometimes try to eat the mouse upside down, but for only 10 -15 seconds.

i still kinda do not understand what it is.

[Taxiballbreeder]

I have a spider with a very low "wobble". It really isn't that bad. He is only about 2 years old and you can hardly notice it. At times-Like feeding time it's more noticiable. But with that said he is one of my favorite snakes in my collection and it really doesn't bother him or me at all. In fact he is one of my best eaters I have. So really not too much for concern.

[BPro927]

I youtube videos on wobble, The only time i have seen it in my snake is when he is trying to swallow a mouse.

thank you everyone for your info.

~Brian

[Anya]

I think it's adorable. xD My little guy only shows it when he's getting excited about feeding time.

[hitman3303]

I had a bumblebee with wobble and it was pretty strong in him. He would constantly keep looking up, then flip his head and neck upside down. He didn't really roll around on his back and it didn't seem to be triggered by stress as he did not do it when he was picked up. I have another BB and he does not appear to really do it until you pick him up then he does it some what.

It is one of those things you just have to accept if you work with the morph.

[h00blah]

I will see my spider corkscrew normally on Friday and Saturday, when I'm going to feed him.

I've caught him sleeping in the corkscrew position.

It does sometimes seem to affect him when he's trying to locate his "kill". He'll corkscrew when trying to look for the head of the rodent. It doesn't bother me much. My killerbee will corkscrew as well. She will corkscrew when I hold food in front of her, but when she strikes, it's typically straight on lol. I think they're trying to psyche their prey out or something haha.

[mainbutter]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

It seems that the degree of spider wobble seems to be as well.

I find that depending on one's experience with "normal snake movement", the balance/motor control/whatever issues associated with the spider trait may seem to be more unnatural, more severe, or perhaps even non-existent to different observers.

The best way to get an idea of what to look for with a spider wobble is to observe lots of non spiders, particularly during handling or anytime they are actively moving. Then, take yourself to a reptile show and browse the tables and pay attention to the spiders on display. Upside down heads, mild "wobbling" or side to side movement of the head, and corkscrewing are readily observed in stressed out snakes in small, clear display units.

The one place that I've never seen spiders wobble is at my local pet shop. Their spiders are always tucked away in their hides when I come to browse, like good ball pythons should be. A calm, relaxed, motionless spider will not be displaying any wobble.