Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

[Simple Man]

If nothing else good comes from the Desert debacle, at least it made the choice to get into the Desert Ghost recessive that much easier I love recessives anyway for hobby and business reasons. More fun to work into projects and see results and the prices stay a lot more stable.

Regards,

B

[Lair of Dragons]

I watch ads in Kingsnake and Fauna....I do not see very many ads at all of anyone dumping off Desert Females....I see babies listed and a lot of males and male morphs but no females. So...let me know who these breeders are that are "dumping" them off and maybe I can pick another female or two....I would apreciate it.
Travis
Lair of Dragons

[RandyRemington]

I wish I knew how close the caramel females are to infertile. I've got a chance to produce my first caramel this year. If I hatch a female that is very very unlikely to produce any good eggs I'll probably quietly look for someone to give her to as a pet rather than advertise her at a super low price ticking off other breeders who might think they should be more. Maybe the lack of for sale desert females is due to a similar reluctance to advertise them at what they might be valued at now.

[Royal Hijinx]

I wish I knew how close the caramel females are to infertile. I've got a chance to produce my first caramel this year. If I hatch a female that is very very unlikely to produce any good eggs I'll probably quietly look for someone to give her to as a pet rather than advertise her at a super low price ticking off other breeders who might think they should be more. Maybe the lack of for sale desert females is due to a similar reluctance to advertise them at what they might be valued at now.

I think this is in play. Also, not everyone buys off of KS and Fauna, so I am sure there are off the cuff deals to be had for the females.

[Slim]

Slim,
So tell me this...has there ever been a female reptile that is proven to be infertile...if so I have never heard of it. Maybe I missed it......

Well, Travis, so far, Desert female ball pythons are doing an outstanding job of being just what you've described here.

I also have a hunch that the list of things you have never heard of or missed is long and distinguished.

I watch ads in Kingsnake and Fauna....I do not see very many ads at all of anyone dumping off Desert Females....

Do you think that when big breeders bail out of a project that they sell those animals on KS and Fauna???? Dude...Really?

Good luck with your plan to corner the market on Desert females

[Jonas@Balls2TheWall]

I know a guy who knows a guy who supposedly has a desert female due to lay very soon.

We shall see.....

[ZBP]

I think Travis has a point to an extent. Yes Desert females have not yet been able to have a fertile clutch, but who is to say that this will remain true. Special conditions could be the only thing needed. I do not think there has been a whole species or type of animal that has been infertile in its entirety but the Desert Ball python could prove to be one of these animals. I do not plan on getting into them because of there infertility problem but I just feel like it may still be possible to get a fertile clutch, but it is also just as possible that they never have a fertile clutch. Who knows we will just have to wait and see.

[Slim]

Who knows we will just have to wait and see.

It's not like a couple of guys somewhere are dinking around with this project. A LOT of breeders have been working this project for quite some time with no positive results.

At a certain point you have to start accepting the reality of the situation, sad as it may be.

[Lair of Dragons]

Not trying to corner the market...never said I was going to be first and never planned to do so....just want to be on the ground floor when someone else figures it out....it will be solved...if not already....I would just like the heads up if anyone hears of any breeders dumping Desert females in the 400 to 900 gram range....not interested in babies or adults because I want a year or two to set them up right.
I just have a very very hard time accepting that because a female has a morph gene it makes her infertile...
Travis
Lair of Dragons

[Slim]

Travis, as I stated earlier in this thread, I want you to make this work. I want you to be the first guy to do it, make your money, and then show the world how it's done.

Problem is, I'm a realist and the one thing I haven't seen are any real results.