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    Grandkids & baby Ball

    Advice on substrate for a baby Ball Python. I had a Ball for years when my boys were little, so I’m not a first timer. I’m going to buy a baby Ball (hopefully a Pied) to introduce my grandkids to herps – the snake will live with me but the 4 year old twinz will be the “owners”. I still have my 100 gal aquarium and the top of the cage heat lamps (new bulbs will be needed of course), and some great wood and rock hides, but haven’t had anything live in there for about 10 years. It’s got clean playsand (bought from hardware store), and for the last 8 years has only housed my collection of fossils and rocks. I know sand is not a good substrate for Balls, but could I just cover the sand with a few inches of pine or sphagnum? The tank is plenty deep, and I think the sand would look cool underneath, but the health of the snake is my main concern. Advice?

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    A 100 gallon tank would be massive and stressful for a baby ball. It might be better to get a much smaller enclosure, say a 10 or 20 gallon, or even a sterilite tub. BPs feel secure in small, dark environments, something huge glass tanks can't really provide.

    I would recommend either aspen or paper towel/newspaper as a substrate.

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    Re: Grandkids & baby Ball

    Agreed that tank would be too big for a baby ball. If you want a substrate that looks nice, also helps with humidity, Eco Earth works great. Btw, cool that you are introducing them to snakes.
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    Don't forget belly heat

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    Re: Grandkids & baby Ball

    I would agree I would not put a baby ball in anything bigger than a 20L aquarium but a shoebox tub would do very nicely as well. As for Substrate I relly like Eco Earth in my aquariums it really helps hold humidity. If you do get an aquarium cover 3 sides with something to block out the light and motion. I use aquarium background but anything dark would do I have even seen some use black construction paper.
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    A sand base will thwart any attempt you make at providing belly heat with a UTH. You need to re-think that plan right off the bat. Secondly, please do not use pine anything as a substrate. Any pine substrate can hold pine sap that is not good for your BP's scales, and a higher levels can be toxic.

    I agree with the rest that a 100 gal tank is far too large for a baby BP. If you are set on using a tank for your snake, please invest in a 20 gal long and read the following:

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...p-w-pics-*DUW*


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    I don't know if this will work, but you may be able to put a divider in your 100 gal aquarium to make it "smaller" for the snake until it gets bigger and just increase the size of the area for the little guy! I do agree with the UTH for the snake though!

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    As everyone else has said, the 100 gal is going to be way too large for a baby ball. Also, using that large of an aquarium and trying to heat it with lights is going to suck all the humidity out of the air and will cause shedding problems. I want to add though that if you're going to use a tank setup, you should really take the sand completely out of the tank. Even if you cover it with a layer of aspen or cypress, your snake could easily burrow beneath the wood shavings and could potentially ingest the sand which could cause your ball to become impacted.
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    Re: Grandkids & baby Ball

    Thanx. I'll get a smaller tank. I'm looking for a special baby, and want it to be healthy & happy. As for under the tank heat, I thought that was a big no no?

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    Under-tank heaters can be great! It's not a big no-no unless it is left unregulated, which leaves the opportunity for product failure and burns to your snake. Belly heat is a very valuable asset and can be a great option, as long as the heat source is regulated with a thermostat or at least a rheostat.

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