What should I do for best results?

[crazyj83]

Hey everyone, i have a year or so but i'm trying to put my game plan together now. Queation is, seeing my signature, I have a 1.0 Cinny fader, 1.0 low white reduced pattern spider, 0.1 Fire, 0.1 Pastel het pied, if you had them how would you pair them and what would be my outcomes be with said pairing?

[Meltdown Morphs]

lol if it was up to me I'd do both males to both females,
Cinny Fader & Spider x Fire
Cinny Fader & Spider x Pastel het pied
that could potentially give you the best chances on double sired clutches from both females.

With the spider its pretty simple cut you could get Fire spiders, Bumble bee's poss het pied, spiders, pastels, Normal poss het pieds.

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[Slim]

I'd do both males to both females

This!!!

[crazyj83]

I'm really lookin forward to firespiders and cinny fire balls, pewters wouldent be bad either...lol.. Now heres another question, if I breed these guys and I get a spider from the spider/fire clutch would it be a spider het fire? Or my normals from the clutches be double het whatever the parents are?

[Meltdown Morphs]

I think you need to do a little more 'self educating' on the genetics of ball pythons. Its not exactly a good thing to have a morphs and not even know how the genes work.

But anyways to answer the question, there is no such thing as a 'het spider' or 'het fire' The spider is a dominant, and fire is codom. Fire itself is technically a 'het Black eyed leucistic", similar to how people say 'Russo het leucistic"

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[cmack91]

Your fire is het fire, but its visual because its a codominant. So yes hey could be het fire, which is a visual fire

[The Serpent Merchant]

I suggest you look into co-Dom genetics. The term get is generally only used when dealing with recessive genetics.

[crazyj83]

Ok, thanks guys, I just wanted to make sure that someone else was blowin smoke. I know basic genetics but had someone at a petstore try and tell me everything would be het for somethin if both parents were morphs.. Kinda figured it was bsjust wanted to affirm my first thoughts. Thanks

[The Serpent Merchant]

That is true when dealing with visual (homozygous) recessive morphs, your het pied is the only recessive morph that you have, the rest are co-Dom.

If you haven't already, read this it should clear things up.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics