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    This is absurd........ When is this bill suppose to be finalized???

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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    This is absolutely ludicrous! We have as much the right to keep any reptile we please as anyone who has a dog. There have been over 300 people killed by domestic dogs in the last twenty years. The number of people killed by pet reptiles in this amount of time is minuscule in comparison. Are they going to ban dogs next? Of course not! The government needs to just let it go and keep its nose out of this wonderful business. By the people for the people? Yeah right, I believe that. Seventeen thousand Americans have said no to this awful reptile ban, will it make a difference? I sure hope so.

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    Sigh. How many more times do you think this bill will be republished under different names before we are done with it? I'll keep fighting it til the end!

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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    Quote Originally Posted by neondreams View Post
    Trying to clear up some confusion I've seen on this thread (I was rather confused as well until I read the actual amendment being proposed)

    A lot of people (other blogs and websites included) are saying that ALL pythons, including the ball python, would be banned. According to the species listed in the legislation this is not correct.
    The legislation is written very clearly as to what species they are talking about, and I googled the names to verify which breeds these are and ball python (Python Regius) is not included.

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s373/show
    I don't think it matters if ball pythons are included or not. A lot of us own snakes that will be included if this passes and as a community we need to come together to stop this because if this passes they will start to come after the smaller snakes next.
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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    Quote Originally Posted by evan385 View Post
    This is absolutely ludicrous! We have as much the right to keep any reptile we please as anyone who has a dog. There have been over 300 people killed by domestic dogs in the last twenty years. The number of people killed by pet reptiles in this amount of time is minuscule in comparison. Are they going to ban dogs next? Of course not! The government needs to just let it go and keep its nose out of this wonderful business. By the people for the people? Yeah right, I believe that. Seventeen thousand Americans have said no to this awful reptile ban, will it make a difference? I sure hope so.
    Quote Originally Posted by purplemuffin View Post
    Sigh. How many more times do you think this bill will be republished under different names before we are done with it? I'll keep fighting it til the end!
    Most of the politicians who sponsor thease bills are lobbied by the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). Their ultimate goal is to end all pet ownership. They will do whatever is necessary to keep donations coming in, whether it's by creating a percieved threat to public safety or by playing on peoples sympathies from their advertising campaign. Sooner or later, cats and dogs will be on their ban list. They have already tried to take down a large part of the pet industry and failed because of the backlash from the pet industry as a whole. Now, their plan is to take it down in small pieces...
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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    The problem has to do with simply too many irresponsible keepers buying little snakes and letting them loose in Florida when they get big where they are proving to be able to live and breed in the wild. They cited these 9 snakes because they're the largest, most likely to be abandoned, and do in fact pose public safety risks in terms of their ability to harm livestock, pets, and even small children under the wrong circumstance.

    I agree that legislation is helpful here. In my opinion, however, this legislation should be limited to states where the animals can live a full life cycle. They'd die within a year in 45 of the 50 states practically, so it seems stupid to have this be federal.

    If the bill doesn't get dropped, I'd like to see them simply make the animals require a permit rather than ban them outright. The permit would require the owner to prove that they have properly secure facilities and the ability to care for the animal properly through its life. This generates revenue and keeps a tab on what are, to be fair, big nasty invasive dinosaurs. Keepers who are worthy of the big snakes can keep, breed, and sell them to other worthy keepers.
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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    You should realize that this does NOT ban the sale or breeding of snakes already IN the united states.
    You would be able to sell within your own state, but importation and interstate transport and commerce would become a felony.
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