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Re: Getting concerned...Any advice would be great
Okay iv'e done some assist feeding i would not recommend force feeding while he has an RI, only because i'm sure he is under enough stress from the RI, and stuff.
The only thing about assist feeding is that iv'e had snakes that would just never eat the rat that i assist fed it.
No matter how many times i would try to assist feed it, it wouldn't take the rat at all.
But theres no harm in trying.
Just make sure you wait 5-7 days after each attempt, because a un-succesful assist feed is really stressful to the snake.
Goodluck,
Mike H.
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Few quick thoughts/questions:
How long have you had the snake before 11-17-10?
How do you know all your temps are spot on (how are they being measured)?
What was he eating and what are you currently trying to feed him (smaller now is probably better)?
Did the vet do a culture to see which antibiotics will work or is he just trying out different antibiotics in hopes one will work?
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Re: Getting concerned...Any advice would be great
Originally Posted by Boanerges
Few quick thoughts/questions:
How long have you had the snake before 11-17-10?
How do you know all your temps are spot on (how are they being measured)?
What was he eating and what are you currently trying to feed him (smaller now is probably better)?
Did the vet do a culture to see which antibiotics will work or is he just trying out different antibiotics in hopes one will work?
Good afternoon and thank you for responding.I purchased him late April 2010.He was and is in a 20 gal long tank.Hides at both ends,His water dish is changed every other day and does not recieve direct light.I use Aspen for substrate,Temps are measured by opp end placement of thermostats mounted inside tank in back 3 to 4 inches above substrate layer.there is a sperate humidity gauge set up between thermometers at same level .Temps range from 90 to 92 warm side to 80 to 82 cool side ,although it can drop to under 80 on the cool end at night when night lamp is on.Up until November he was feeding weekly on 1 to 2 average mice.FT was original food item from purchase till mid july when he wanted nothing to do with them then switched to live which he eagerly took up till his last feed in nov 10.When his RI diagnosed the doc prescribed the AB most used for this ailment,The second was a more aggresive acting AB.and different dosing instructions,also it was kept frozen inbetween doses.He isnt exhibiting any more symptoms of the RI ,but his appetite is nonexistant. still...I was told that if this continued that a culture or biopsy would be needed,but that aso is an expensive procedure.he knows i am not made of money and is only trying to helpI have attempted to feed him smaller prey both ft and live,still nothing.....hope this info helped ....Dave
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Put your probes directly on the glass. Hot glue them their if you wish. Balls are belly heaters. Ie their belly isn't 4 inches above the sub. It may be too hot for him so he may be stressed beacaue of that which lowers the immune system, combine that with a self winter cooling this could have caused the Ri. But we will never really know. I suggest that you fix the probes, and make sure your temps are right on.
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Re: Getting concerned...Any advice would be great
You mention a humidity gauge, but what is the humidity? He needs to be over 50%, and you might want to push over 60% while he has the RI. Aspen bedding doesn't hold moisture very well without molding, so you might want to change to cypress mulch (permanently), as well as adding some moistened sphagnum moss while he is sick.
I definitely wouldn't force feed him with the RI (imagine shoving something that size down your throat when you already can't breathe, ouch!). Did the vet culture to find out what AB would work best, or just pick "the usual"? Would your vet prescribe you additional antibiotics, without another visit? Is there someone you can take him to for a second opinion? I am still learning when it comes to BPs, but generally a sick animal after two months of antibiotics sounds like there is more wrong than just the infection.
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Re: Getting concerned...Any advice would be great
At this point, force feeding would probably make the situation worse. It would be adding stress to an already stressful situation, with the RI.
Keep the humidity up!!! Too-dry conditions can cause RIs just as easily as too-wet conditions. Switch out the aspen for paper towels or newspaper so that you can more easily regulate humidity. Shoot for 60 or 70%; the substrate should never be wet, but it is important that your snake's lung does not dry out. Rinse and refill his water dish daily.
Beyond that, the best advice I can give you is to hang in there and don't lose hope. It sounds like he is not in good shape, but six months without food is not going to kill him. Ball pythons are resilient little guys. Bring your concerns to your vet, keep up treatment, and this mess will resolve with time!
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Re: Getting concerned...Any advice would be great
Baytril works wonders. Make sure everything is right and don't worry, think positive. Your ball python after treatment and after being cured doesn't mean he will eat right away. Balls are great because they come around to and show u hey, I'm still doing BP things. Balls only eat once a month in the wild that's twelve feedings in one year. It's great that you care and are concerned just don't over stress yourself man.
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Round dials to read temperatures?
Below 80's ambient temps with low humidity is a recipe for RI did anything get fixed to get the temps up to where they should be so the snake doesn't get another RI?
How exactly is this tank heated and are the only temperature readings being done by those stick on dials?
Jerry Robertson
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