Ohio to ban exotic animal ownership

[DemmBalls]

I keep hearing people say why do people own bears,but if some one knows what ther doing than, by all means own a bear.People often ask why do we own retics some people dont see what we see when we, look at these awsome snakes. But it goes both ways we shouldent be a critict, of people owning other exotics.

Bingo! We (snake owners) should be the last to criticize anyone for owning a potentially dangerous animal...that's like the pot calling the kettle black.

If everyone took the time to learn more about these animals and proper husbandry/housing before running out and buying a giant constrictor, there would really be very little risk involved (aside from getting tagged once in a while). In turn this would help get us out of the negative spot light that we constantly seem to find ourselves in.

[foxcruzin91]

All I'm really saying is id rather get hit by a retic a couple times then punched/clawed by a bear... or have my face ripped off by a monkey or whatever....

Anyone that's been hit by any snake understands why though... its always something stupid or overlooked... like smelling like food, not looking for eye movement, screwing with the eggs, there are many mistakes but the chance of even a retic eating a full size adult is slim to none... for a child its a different story... if you trust your snake that well and can basically read its mind enough to know what it will do then be my guest....

Another thing that doesn't help is people don't want to admit when they screwed up...like having a not so secure cage for a retic or burm... or not yielding to the warnings saying leave me alone... or worst of all testing them to see what they can get away with...or my favorite... the people that stick their head into a bag or into the tank and then get hit in the face.... I mean come on! I was always told not to look down the barrel of a gun it doesn't matter if its loaded or not... don't do it!

Yes we can argue both sides all day everyday... I love my retics and won't give them up... the fact of the matter is banning all or even some snakes is stupid... with the way the economy is and the demand for them is... or just the fact they make great pets for the people that truely want them... just make it so that the buyers need to sign a waiver...

In all honesty id rather have the dumb trash that buy and sell snakes lowering the value... than have a casino in cleveland.... that I wouldn't go to because of the crime and all that I wouldn't want to get caught up in...

Id rather sit at home with some friends drink some beer smoke some ciggs and have my snakes around...lol

[kalashnikov]

I always hear people aslo say i called my congressman and i told him my snake, is loving lol there gonna take us as a joke if we keep going, on about how there not a danger. I think we need to go on the argument that yes we, understand how much of a danger they are, and how bad they can be if let into non native land. But we will do whatever it takes to own these snakes. you think a congressman is going to admit he is wrong lol if they scroo somthing up they blame the person before him lol. So we need to go on a better argument than my snake is just as nice as your dog they will think wer looneys. weither ther right or wrong we need to argue from a point that will make sense to them.

[kalashnikov]

Here is somthing i posted on another topic.well the facts our that like 33 people a year get killed by dogs i think 100 people a year from equestrion animals but big constrictors kill one person ever 5 years and just like with anything the deaths probley could have been prevented with common sense. the goverment shouldent be allowed to just take away stuff cause it could be harmfull to us we got to be able to be responsible and punish the ones who arnt. if i want to ride a bull which i have it should be my choice to do so. they plan to help the eco system by stoping the pet trade of snakes but we wer not aloud to let them in wild in the first place so what makes me think that if unresponsible people couldent follow that law whats gonna stop them from getting illegal snakes. And how this will affect everbody is evertime the goverment gets there finger into somthing they never stop i mean the double tax standard was for ww2 only but we still have it to this this day so whats gonna stop them banning other animals. and if they keep banning snakes it will put people out of tons of jobs so now instead of 3 people per job opening it will be maybe more.

[foxcruzin91]

perfectly stated.... the government really needs to learn when and where to put there fingers in... and when to leave things alone....

Like ciggs... they made the fire safe ones because of people being stupid and burning their house down... and then put other b/s taxes on them...

Everything they try to get into just makes everyone else mad...

I trust my retics more than the government especially when it comes to safety... atleast i can read my snake to know what its going to do... unlike the government saying they will do this and then turn around and they are doing something else...

you said that it would be hard to prove a snake is nicer to a person than a dog... anything can be dangerous in the wrong hands.... but the statistics don't lie... you have a much more elevated chance of getting bite or killed by a dog than a snake...

Again, they are messing with a huge "underground" industry that would more than likely still keep going on "the black market" even if there was a ban because of the people that not only like the reptiles but also for the money...

Hey but then again our snakes would be worth even more!...lol

[TheSnizz]

Does anyone know exactly what they mean by "large constricting snakes?" How big is big? Are ball pythons going to be okay?

[foxcruzin91]

I would guess its going to be for retics, burmese, boas, anacondas, i'm sure there are others but I would guess those would be the main ones....

Doubtful they would include ball pythons...

Yet the US government is trying to make it so all constrictors are illegal.. and also all exotics like reptiles, amphibians, arachnids and such....

[foxcruzin91]

I would guess its going to be for retics, burmese, boas, anacondas, i'm sure there are others but I would guess those would be the main ones....

Doubtful they would include ball pythons...

Yet the US government is trying to make it so all constrictors are illegal.. and also all exotics like reptiles, amphibians, arachnids and such....

[ahunt037]

I think this is really stupid that they are doing this if anything they should make it harder to obtain these animals not ban them i know it would suck to have to get permits and licenses for snakes but its better than having to get rid of them all together IMO i dont think anyone should be able to own Hots although i would love to own some of these beautiful venomous creatures i just dont think they should be alowed to be kept for example i can just see some rich idiot sayin "i want a black mamba! someone get me one" then his lil servants go get him his licenses and permits to own one and then he trys to open the cage the mamba is out the cage and out the door in a matter of minutes. and when it comes to other exotics such as lions tigers and bears o my... i mean these animals should be kept in a very secure enclosure like someone else stated they should have a govt official or something come out and inspect before they can purchase the animal. now i can see someone purchasing a exotic pet such as a Wolf thinking o its just like a regular dog... no way these things can and will kill you it doesnt matter how many lines have been bred captive these animals are all about dominance if you dont retain your position as the Alpha male/female over this Wolf it will kill you i have heard stories of this happening then again stories are simply that so i could be wrong but it makes alot of sense to me and im sorry that yall out in Ohio are experiencing this crap and i hope and pray everyday that it doesnt make its way west maybe i should become friends with John McCain lol

[kalashnikov]

I think this is really stupid that they are doing this if anything they should make it harder to obtain these animals not ban them i know it would suck to have to get permits and licenses for snakes but its better than having to get rid of them all together IMO i dont think anyone should be able to own Hots although i would love to own some of these beautiful venomous creatures i just dont think they should be alowed to be kept for example i can just see some rich idiot sayin "i want a black mamba! someone get me one" then his lil servants go get him his licenses and permits to own one and then he trys to open the cage the mamba is out the cage and out the door in a matter of minutes. and when it comes to other exotics such as lions tigers and bears o my... i mean these animals should be kept in a very secure enclosure like someone else stated they should have a govt official or something come out and inspect before they can purchase the animal. now i can see someone purchasing a exotic pet such as a Wolf thinking o its just like a regular dog... no way these things can and will kill you it doesnt matter how many lines have been bred captive these animals are all about dominance if you dont retain your position as the Alpha male/female over this Wolf it will kill you i have heard stories of this happening then again stories are simply that so i could be wrong but it makes alot of sense to me and im sorry that yall out in Ohio are experiencing this crap and i hope and pray everyday that it doesnt make its way west maybe i should become friends with John McCain lol

Us snake people need to stop acting like hypocrites,and saying keep the big snakes, but ban this or ban that .i know in ohio and alot states its very easy to own snakes with venom, but not realy to much happens just the owners get bit once in awhile.