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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
very interesting...good luck with him
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
Very cool looking Spider, they are one of my favorite morphs.
I would talk to the person you got it from, and try to find out as much as you can about its history. Was it CB by someone you can talk to? If so, what did the parents look like, what did the other offspring look like, has another been produced? If yours is the only one, and there have been multiple breedings by your snake's parents since, I would say it is an anomoly, and probably not genetic.
Find out what you can, and let us know.
Dave
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
My understanding is that IMG is genetic, but it is not a simple dominant, co-dominant, or recessive. It's something far messier and more difficult for laypersons to understand.
I believe IMG is being deliberately bred into some lines, and successfully (It continues to crop up in these bloodlines).
IMG can manifest in more than one way--in some cases, the hatchlings are born looking pretty unusual, and in others, they look normal, and the changes happen over time. Or a normal-looking adult snake may shed out 'axanthic', and then recover color, with increasing black speckling, over time.
Here's the info on Ralph Davis' 'Dirty Joe', an IMG who hatched out looking axanthic, and then colored up and speckled over time:
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co...all_python.asp
The spider in the photos here looks just like IMG to me.
The 'paradox lemon bumblebee' appears to have some form of extreme axanthism going on, not 'paradox'.
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
Originally Posted by BiggBaddWolf
Almost looks like a calico x spider
I agree, looks like a Calico Spider
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
Originally Posted by kc261
It looks kinda IMGish. Here is a thread on a spider who went through the IMG thing. Make sure you look near the end for updated pics of her.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...2581&highlight
If your spider is IMG, it wasn't like that as a hatchling, and it will gradually get closer to looking like a normal spider, but I think they never really get all the way back to normal. And I think so far, no one has proven IMG to be caused by anything genetic.
The thing is your snake looks like it has some sections that have remained normal spider looking, and as far as I am aware, IMG snakes change their whole body when they change. So the IMG thing may not apply at all. Part normal and part wierd is more like paradox, and in that case, your snake would have hatched that way and will stay that way its whole life. Unfortunately, paradox also has never been proven genetic as far as I am aware.
So do you think he will turn more (all his body)? In present i think he change most of body but not whole .
Last edited by barakujang; 02-05-2010 at 10:36 PM.
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
She looks amazingly cool to me. I love all of the flecks!!
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
Originally Posted by Toronto Python Gurus
I agree, looks like a Calico Spider
Have you ever seen a Calider?? This animal doesn´t look like one at all.
Here you have two pictures of a Calider.
http://www.captivebredreptileforums....on-calider.jpg
http://www.captivebredreptileforums....o-x-spider.jpg
Last edited by dr del; 02-07-2010 at 07:18 PM.
Reason: hotlinking I'm afraid
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
I think it looks more like a wannabee.. A woma ball x bumblebee.
The woma gene seems to create that speckled look but they dont have extremely high white sides like a Calider. This is a combo I plan to try to create next year if my bee didnt take this year. Check out this NERD page of their wannabee..
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
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Re: <<<New addition Amazing spider >>>
That's one crazy good looking spider!
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