so i want to keep some hognoses.

[EdShal]

after reading caresheets and all, still got a few questions.

will it be ok, if i use newspaper as bedding?
cause i got tons of them which i use for my corns, milks, king & ball pythons.

will it be ok, if i kept them in the same room/rack? after quarantine that is..
cause, im scared if the hoggies play dead and produce their defensive musk. i read their musk is horrible.

can a hoggie be feed on adult mice once they are bigger?
i went from page 1 to 10.. and i didnt find anyone feeding adult mice. most are either pinkies to fuzzies. and just mice. (dont know what size mice)

lastly, am i ready for a hognose?
i keep corn since 2005. milks, king in 2008. and started on ball pythons late of 2008.
currently i keeping 7 corns. 2 milks. 1 king & 10 ball pythons.

hope you guys can advice me..

[RedDevil]

after reading caresheets and all, still got a few questions.

will it be ok, if i use newspaper as bedding?
cause i got tons of them which i use for my corns, milks, king & ball pythons.

will it be ok, if i kept them in the same room/rack? after quarantine that is..
cause, im scared if the hoggies play dead and produce their defensive musk. i read their musk is horrible.

can a hoggie be feed on adult mice once they are bigger?
i went from page 1 to 10.. and i didnt find anyone feeding adult mice. most are either pinkies to fuzzies. and just mice. (dont know what size mice)

lastly, am i ready for a hognose?
i keep corn since 2005. milks, king in 2008. and started on ball pythons late of 2008.
currently i keeping 7 corns. 2 milks. 1 king & 10 ball pythons.

hope you guys can advice me..

They like to burrow, but newspaper shouldn't be much of a problem. I haven't personally used it, but I've heard of others doing so successfully.

Same room wouldn't be an issue, and same rack could work depending on what the temps are set at. I keep my hatchling BP and Hogs in the same racks (seperate tubs, of course) with no problems.

As for the size mouse, that definately depends on the individual snake. Some don't get big enough for a large mouse, and some could easily take more than one.

[mainbutter]

Others do use newspaper on occasion, but as it was stated they do like to burrow. I'd rather keep them on a substrate they could burrow in personally, but it's not like they'll die or refuse to breed if you don't.

[Aeries]

I feed my hoggie rat hoppers. Captive hoggies rarely EVER play dead/musk (maybe a bit as babies). Hissing yes! xD
I think you'd be fine with a hoggie, they're not much different than any other colubrid, as long as you don't take their bluffing seriously.

[EdShal]

thanks all for your advice..

i'll upload them once I get them home.. ;o)

[mainbutter]

Can't wait for pics

Are you picking up a pair?

[EdShal]

Can't wait for pics

Are you picking up a pair?

Hopefully it will arrive sooner.. but i think, it will arrive in the 1st week of 2010.

yes.. a pair. how did you ever know..

[EdShal]

so i received the hoggies pair yesterday.
man they are cute.. both weighting 42-grams.
I place them in their individual tubs.
One of them, I think is in shed. Both of them were all around the tub, exploring. i place a few shredded newspaper.. just to make them feel more comfortable.
Strange thing.. i notice. a few hours after they settle in & this morning, the one in shed, dont want to use its hide, its in the open. the other one, is happily in his hide. Should i worry?
I also place a damp clean rag over the hog (the one in shed) to increase the humidity.

[Gregg Madden]

I think you'd be fine with a hoggie, they're not much different than any other colubrid, as long as you don't take their bluffing seriously.

This seems to be a very common misconception... They are very different than most colubrids... They do well with higher temps and the differences do not stop there...

Also, and this is a big one, their bluffing should be taken seriously... They can and will bite... I have a few hogs that will readily bite... Mostly out of feed responce but I have 2 males in particular that will bite while being handled... The hognose snake can also inflict a pretty nasty bite... I have been bitten many times and have never had a reaction to their bite but not everyone is the same and you can have a pretty bad reaction to their venom... Yes in some circles they are considered a venomous species...

[kitsunex]

they aren't according to this:
http://www.toxinology.com/fusebox.cf...play&id=SN1531