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    More Florida news Sales ban

    S318 GENERAL BILL by Sobel Reptiles/Prohibitions; Prohibits any person from possessing, importing, selling, trading, or breeding certain specified reptile species, including a reptile designated as a reptile of concern by the FWC. Provides certain exceptions applicable to reptiles for which the owner holds a permit issued before a specified date. EFFECTIVE DATE: 07/01/2010. 10/05/09 SENATE Filed

    http://www.flsenate.gov/session/inde...o&BillNum=0318

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    Re: More Florida news Sales ban

    Florida Senate - 2010 SB 318



    By Senator Sobel




    31-00241-10 2010318__
    1 A bill to be entitled
    2 An act relating to reptiles; amending s. 379.372,
    3 F.S.; prohibiting any person from possessing,
    4 importing, selling, trading, or breeding certain
    5 specified reptile species, including a reptile
    6 designated as a reptile of concern by the Fish and
    7 Wildlife Conservation Commission; providing certain
    8 exceptions applicable to reptiles for which the owner
    9 holds a permit issued before a specified date;
    10 providing an effective date.
    11
    12 Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
    13
    14 Section 1. Section 379.372, Florida Statutes, is amended to
    15 read:
    16 379.372 Capturing, keeping, possessing, transporting, or
    17 exhibiting venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern; license
    18 required.—
    19 (1)(a) No person, firm, or corporation shall capture, keep,
    20 possess, or exhibit any poisonous or venomous reptile or reptile
    21 of concern without first having obtained a special permit or
    22 license therefor from the Fish and Wildlife Conservation
    23 Commission as provided in this section.
    24 (b)(2) By December 31, 2007, the commission shall establish
    25 a list of reptiles of concern, including venomous, nonvenomous,
    26 native, nonnative, or other reptiles, which require additional
    27 regulation for capture, possession, transportation, or
    28 exhibition due to their nature, habits, status, or potential to
    29 negatively impact the environment, ecology, or humans.
    30 (c)(3) It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or
    31 corporation, whether licensed hereunder or not, to capture,
    32 keep, possess, or exhibit any venomous reptile or reptile of
    33 concern in any manner not approved as safe, secure, and proper
    34 by the commission. Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern held
    35 in captivity are subject to inspection by the commission. The
    36 commission shall determine whether the reptiles are securely,
    37 safely, and properly penned. In the event that the reptiles are
    38 not safely penned, the commission shall report the situation in
    39 writing to the person, firm, or corporation owning the reptiles.
    40 Failure of the person, firm, or corporation to correct the
    41 situation within 30 days after such written notice shall be
    42 grounds for revocation of the license or permit of the person,
    43 firm, or corporation.
    44 (d)(4) Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern shall be
    45 transported in a safe, secure, and proper manner. The commission
    46 shall establish by rule the requirements for the transportation
    47 of venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern.
    48 (2)(a) No person, firm, or corporation shall keep, possess,
    49 import into the state, sell, barter, trade, or breed the
    50 following species for personal use or for sale for personal use:
    51 1. Burmese or Indian python (Python molurus).
    52 2. Reticulated python (Python reticulatus).
    53 3. African rock python (Python sebae).
    54 4. Amethystine or scrub python (Morelia amethystinus).
    55 5. Anaconda (Eunectes).
    56 6. Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus).
    57 7. Any other reptile designated as a reptile of concern by
    58 the commission.
    59 (b) However, if a person holds a permit issued before July
    60 1, 2010, pursuant to subsection (1) to legally possess a species
    61 listed in paragraph (a), that person may possess the individual
    62 reptile for the remainder of that reptile’s life. Any person who
    63 possesses an anaconda, other than a green anaconda (Eunectes
    64 murinus), and who meets the required criteria must obtain a
    65 permit pursuant to subsection (1) by October 1, 2010, in order
    66 to keep that anaconda for the remainder of its life.
    67 Section 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2010.
    This is just silly.. Why is it that in FL you can have any other type of anaconda with the proper permit obtained prior to July 1, 2010 EXCEPT a green anaconda?? You know what i see here? A bunch of people who have these snakes are going to get desperate, afraid, mad, whatever, and will end up releasing them into the wild.

    Thus continuing the chain of idiocy. Endangering the rest of us who have reptiles. Contributing to the delinquincy of our fine US gobernment..

    Yes thats a typo..

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    Re: More Florida news Sales ban

    it is crap for sure but the reason for the anaconda thing is that they have been spotted in the everglades. yes it sounds bad and it is bad but at least they are not having people turn their animals in and killing them. don't get me wrong, it still sucks that this happend!! florida is a huge import, export state and this will for sure impact the hobby of keeping the larger animals!

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    Re: More Florida news Sales ban

    i would seriously consider the politics on this one because if they were really worried about invaders it would read species of concern and not just reptile of concern. it kind sounds to me like the state of flordia needs to see a large protest at the state house

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    Re: More Florida news Sales ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas339 View Post
    it is crap for sure but the reason for the anaconda thing is that they have been spotted in the everglades.
    They have?

    I have never seen anything about large snakes other than burms being spotted!! I've HEARD that af. rocks have been spotted, but I've never seen a pic of one.

    This is interesting and new to me, I had no idea that anacondas were in the 'glades now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    They have?

    I have never seen anything about large snakes other than burms being spotted!! I've HEARD that af. rocks have been spotted, but I've never seen a pic of one.

    This is interesting and new to me, I had no idea that anacondas were in the 'glades now.
    They probably aren't.. Its like how they are saying the numbers of burms is in the hundreds of thousands. Thats complete bull. On these snake hunts they are having a very hard time finding any. They are seeing many other reptiles, exotic birds, etc.. Native to the everglades. Plenty of snakes. So where are all these burms they are talking about??

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    Re: More Florida news Sales ban

    they took the number of snakes in a given area and then mulitplied it by the total area for the everglades. thats how they got the number. i hate that type science and there are too many scientist that do it. its called extrapolation and its fake data.

    and there are more than just burms. here is the list for the glades:
    http://www.evergladescisma.org/species/reptiles.cfm

    and here is one for all of florida:
    http://www.invasive.org/species/reptiles.cfm

    its not showing anacondas in the glades but i read somewhere from a realiable source that they are there. i just can't remember where.

    i also asked USARK and here is what he said:
    "This is a Bill introduced early for 2010 session."

    so im not even sure if it has passed yet.

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