breeding ?? inbreed ??

[tommyrich]

i know this might be a wierd ? but i was wondering if you can inbreed bp's would there be problems with doing that. I never see anyone talking about that just wondering any feed back is appreciated

[herper55]

It causes kinks.

[Nae]

Inbreeding in successive generations causes genetic mutations in all forms of life that reproduce sexually (genes from 2 parents as opposed to cloning) I believe.

Another prob are duckbilling but idk if this is directly linked to inbreeding or a similar defect to corcscrewing in spiders.

[tommyrich]

what do you mean by kinks

[herper55]

Google kinks.

[cinderbird]

It causes kinks.

i think the OP is looking for a more specific answer..

OP if you use the search function, there are a TON of threads on the subject of in or line breeding with snakes.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ght=inbreeding
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ght=inbreeding
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ght=inbreeding
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ght=inbreeding
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...=line+breeding

I've read before that some corn snakes are on their 11th generation of line breeding in some cases and they are just beginning to see issues associated with that. Ball pythons aren't past 6 generations. But i cant remember the source, i'm sorry.

With inbreeding, there is always the possibility of passing along an unwanted gene with a wanted one. I've heard of breeders actually trading or selling off certain females or males in their collections and getting some new animals to get new blood into their collection every some-odd years.

Just because you line breed for a few generations dosen't automatically mean that your animals will hatch with no eyes, kinks or deformed heads. There are also other things that cause these problems like incubation problems, etc.

There isn't a "set" number of times to breed mother to son or father to daughter or brother to sister. Its really just something that you as a breeder would need to deal with.

[herper55]

Gehehehe

[CoolioTiffany]

Inbreeding, for most animals, isn't really that bad. Inbreeding can give you several mutations with BPs which I really like. I believe you can only get the super forms by breeding co-dominant traits, though (ex: Pastels, Mojaves, Lessers. The super form of a Lesser would be a BEL, or also known as a Blue Eyed Leucistic. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong with the co-dominant thing..).

If you do inbreed BPs, inbreeding only a few times (generation after generation, like offspring to mother or father or brother to sister) is just fine, but if you keep on inbreeding generation after generation the snakes will start to get dumber and dumber as you keep on inbreeding, which can also result in deformities like kinks or missing eyes, and that kind of stuff.

[cinderbird]

Inbreeding, for most animals, isn't really that bad. Inbreeding can give you several mutations with BPs which I really like. I believe you can only get the super forms by breeding co-dominant traits, though (ex: Pastels, Mojaves, Lessers. The super form of a Lesser would be a BEL, or also known as a Blue Eyed Leucistic. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong with the co-dominant thing..).

You can breed two completely unrelated fires together to get a black eyed leucistic, same goes for lessers and pastels, etc.

[CoolioTiffany]

You can breed two completely unrelated fires together to get a black eyed leucistic, same goes for lessers and pastels, etc.

Well ya, but I was just giving some examples of inbreeding and creating the super forms from inbreeding.

Man I would love to have a BEL in my collection, and a low white Pied xD