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New Rat Bins

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  • 11-20-2007, 11:18 AM
    frankykeno
    New Rat Bins
    Finally got around to gettings the pics of the new bins as I promised in another thread.

    Here's the list of supplies I used to make them....

    Sterlite 35 gallon heavy blue bin (must be snap top lid) - $11.00 each

    Super Pet 32 oz water bottle - $4.00 each

    1/2" Hardware Cloth - $5.00 for a small roll (does about 3 or 4 tubs...the bigger roll is more cost effective per enclosure) for mice or ASF's use 1/4" cloth

    Heavy grade zip ties - $3.00 for 100 (I use 20 zip ties per mesh side so 40 per tub...I like those rats secured in LOL)

    So basically not counting bedding and whatever food bowls you use it's approximately $16.00 per large enclosure.

    Label from bin....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...atBinLabel.jpg

    Label from hardware cloth....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ClothLabel.jpg

    Super Pet 32 oz water bottle....I love the spring clip, works very well to remove the bottle without detaching it and the 32 oz gives lots of water to the rats....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...aterBottle.jpg

    New bins....they measure 30 long x 18 high x 19 deep....as you can see by this pic there is very little kick out of bedding through the mesh sides...this is about 30 hours after a tub tidy and basically all you get kicked out is a light dusting from their feet when they climb the mesh.....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...nFrontView.jpg

    They have a nice strong lid clip on each end and the lids themselves are good and rigid with little give....very easy to grasp and move around even for me and I'm barely over 5 feet...not particularily heavy even with the rats and so forth....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...nLidClosed.jpg

    View through both mesh sides....these mesh sides are 24" x 10" and provide excellent flow through ventilation....I'm finding this much more efficient than the top mesh concept I first used....I allowed for bedding kick out by not starting the plastic cut out until about 6 inches up from the bottom of the tub.....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...inMeshView.jpg

    The bin I took these pictures of is my grow out bin for my future female breeder rats (that's Violet and Diva climbing)....the rats seem to enjoy climbing the mesh but have not show any interest at all in lid chewing....I think they enjoy the exercise of climbing up and along the mesh and I'm all for fit, happy rats! LOL....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...tsClimbing.jpg

    Bird's eye view of the same bin, showing a bit of the mesh sides.....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...rdsEyeView.jpg

    Bins stacked two deep...so far this duplex is working out really well for me....I have recently found a large plastic shelving unit that will fit these tubs perfectly and with the mesh sides the shelves of the unit will not interfere with the nice air flow I have going on....depending on the weight of the rats you could likely stack them 3 high without any problem with the lids....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...acked2High.jpg

    These were my older big rat bins and I still have some of them in use. The only issue I've ever had with them is the plastic is a bit thin on them compared to these heavier grade blue bins and I did have some chew outs. These blue bins are stronger and have less ridges inside so I believe they will be better on that issue.
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ubSideView.jpg

    I plan on using these tubs for adult rats, grow out feeder rats and mothers with litters over 15 days of age. I double them up at that point, 2 moms that get along and their litters in one of these bins...seems to be working out very nicely so far. Before that time each female rat is in a 10 gallon tank with her new borns.

    The "Maternity Ward"....
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...rnityTanks.jpg

    Hope this was of interest to some of you. :)
  • 11-20-2007, 11:22 AM
    rabernet
    Re: New Rat Bins
    Looks great! So no issues of them chewing the plastic around the mesh?
  • 11-20-2007, 11:25 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: New Rat Bins
    None at all Robin. Granted it's early days yet, I've only been using this new design a few weeks but I really believe if rats have enough hard food to chew and the ability to move around without overcrowding and a view of their outside world...you just never get all that much cage chewing going on. :) I did allow for some chewing with overlapping the hardware cloth by at least one or two rows bigger than the plastic cutout. I also chose the heaviest grade zip tie I could find as I have seen rats "taste" these before.
  • 11-20-2007, 11:28 AM
    MeMe
    Re: New Rat Bins
    nice work Jo!!!

    They look like they are enjoying the new digs!

    :gj:
  • 11-20-2007, 11:30 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: New Rat Bins
    Those look good. Nice cross ventilation. I would really put the mesh on the inside though, it will help decrease the chance that they can get to the plastic. If it's eye-level, they will chew it, IME. I wish they made metal zip ties.. I've had enough of the plastic ones chewed to last me a lifetime(although the dwarves haven't touched the zip ties holding their custom cage together... Beats me!).
  • 11-20-2007, 11:42 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: New Rat Bins
    Thanks all. Good suggestion Becky! I will incorporate that as I tweak this design over time. I'm noticing with these side vents that there is little to no ammonia build up. I'm keeping the tubs pulled out from the walls so ensure the rats get maximum fresh air.
  • 11-20-2007, 12:05 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: New Rat Bins
    Very nice... A stackable housing unit that doesn't even need shelves.

    One piece of advice, though... I bet if you switched to Woody Pet, or some other pelletized wood product, you wouldn't have any smell at all, and would have no kick-out due to them climbing...
  • 11-20-2007, 12:07 PM
    Shelby
    Re: New Rat Bins
    Those are pretty nifty, Jo. I'm spoiled by my freedom breeder racks though.
  • 11-20-2007, 12:10 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: New Rat Bins
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CntrlF8 View Post
    Very nice... A stackable housing unit that doesn't even need shelves.

    One piece of advice, though... I bet if you switched to Woody Pet, or some other pelletized wood product, you wouldn't have any smell at all, and would have no kick-out due to them climbing...

    I can't find Woody Pet anywhere in the city of Toledo. :mad:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby View Post
    Those are pretty nifty, Jo. I'm spoiled by my freedom breeder racks though.

    Bet you are. They are great racks but out of my current price range LOL.
  • 11-20-2007, 01:43 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: New Rat Bins
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    I can't find Woody Pet anywhere in the city of Toledo. :mad:

    Ask them directly: http://www.woodypet.com/dealer.html

    Just don't call... The guy in their US distribution center will talk your ear off for hours about all the uses of their product. he's REALLY excited to talk to people about it.. lol
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