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  • 09-08-2019, 06:35 AM
    Tila
    Variation or did I make an ID mistake?
    When they first hatched, I called them both cinnabees, but as they are growing I'm noticing differences that are making me wonder if I've made a mistake. I will refer to the snakes as "Head Stamp" and "No Head Stamp" for ease of telling them apart. Here are the differences I noticed between them:
    Head Stamp: has a head stamp, has a speckled belly, has alien heads with eyes, very little if any side pattern white, and brown that bleeds into the dorsal stripe.

    Are they both Cinnabees or did I make a mistake? Pairing was a pewterbee to a lesser or a black pastel.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...20977f4be1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1070a409ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ece62818dc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...476b2928a3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5e0e9e51b3.jpg

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  • 09-09-2019, 05:45 AM
    Tila
    Any guesses?
  • 09-09-2019, 07:17 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tila View Post
    Any guesses?

    I'm with you on 2 Cinnabee's. :)
    One looks like the pattern is reduced.
  • 09-09-2019, 08:22 AM
    Tila
    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    I'm with you on 2 Cinnabee's. :)
    One looks like the pattern is reduced.

    If you were to keep one, which would you choose? I'm leaning toward the reduced, but 2 look like that and Head Stamp is the only one like that so I'm worried I'm choosing the wrong one.

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  • 09-09-2019, 08:57 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tila View Post
    If you were to keep one, which would you choose?

    That would depend on the next morph target for the breeding project:
    If the morph I'm trying to produce is going to be obvious-I would use the Reduced Pattern one to keep it clean.
    If the morph is going to be a bit messy: I would use the one with the obvious head stamp (to increase the ease of offspring ID).
  • 09-09-2019, 07:19 PM
    Ax01
    i think it's variation. also more likely the Black Pastel is the dad and the clean, reduced one is a Cinnabee and the other one is a Black Bee. Black Pastels tend to be a lil busier than their allelic Cinny counterparts.

    :gj:
  • 09-09-2019, 10:12 PM
    Tila
    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    i think it's variation. also more likely the Black Pastel is the dad and the clean, reduced one is a Cinnabee and the other one is a Black Bee. Black Pastels tend to be a lil busier than their allelic Cinny counterparts.

    :gj:

    I was wondering about the dad situation. All 3 cinna/black bees have a really strong dorsal stripe and it seems as though in the black bee pictures I've seen, the snakes had reduced dorsal patterning altogether so I didn't know if that meant Head Stamp couldn't be a possible black bee.

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