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  • 07-17-2017, 12:16 AM
    Thelittlecoggirl
    Update from new owner, please help
    Hello again!

    This is our current set up. Even with diy and much much smaller hides we are concerned because our snake is balled up in the corner. We are seriously considering alt for housing. We plan to attempt a feed Wednesday. If we cannot successfully feed by then we will switch energy to a bin. Bin recommendations welcome and appreciated. Help with tank also desperately needed and appreciated.

    We diy a dimmer system with an automated thermostat on the way, as well as adding tinfoil for humidity (from the diy forum)
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...%2FnYO8mwD.jpg
  • 07-17-2017, 12:31 AM
    BluuWolf
    Re: Update from new owner, please help
    There is waayyyy to much open space in there. I no doubt feels very exposed, you need to fill all those open spacing with something, whether it be foliage or branched or really anything. I'm sure he is it that corner because everywhere else just feels to open and he doesn't feel safe


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  • 07-17-2017, 12:35 AM
    KMG
    1. Cover the sides and back with thick paper for added security.

    2. The hides being white are probably allowing the inside to be lit up which will not make the snake feel secure. Get dark colored containers instead that will be dark inside.

    3. Clutter up all the open space in the tank to give the snake cover and concealment while moving around. Fake plants, crumpled newspaper, moss, etc.
  • 07-17-2017, 01:05 AM
    hollowlaughter
    Probes for the heat/humidity sensor should sit lower to the ground, to monitor the level the snake will be sitting at. Consider hot gluing them to the glass if the snake ends up pulling off the suction cups regularly.

    Agreeing with KMG otherwise. Darker/thicker hides. Clutter, such as fake plants, substrate, moss, pvc tubing; preferably a bit of dabbling in all of them to see which your BP ends up preferring for their living situation.
  • 07-17-2017, 07:26 AM
    Craiga 01453
    I second pretty much all of what has already been said.
  • 07-17-2017, 07:54 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Update from new owner, please help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thelittlecoggirl View Post
    Hello again!

    This is our current set up. Even with diy and much much smaller hides we are concerned because our snake is balled up in the corner. We are seriously considering alt for housing. We plan to attempt a feed Wednesday. If we cannot successfully feed by then we will switch energy to a bin. Bin recommendations welcome and appreciated. Help with tank also desperately needed and appreciated.

    We diy a dimmer system with an automated thermostat on the way, as well as adding tinfoil for humidity (from the diy forum)
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...%2FnYO8mwD.jpg

    Everything has already been said to be honest .

    I'd picture yourself in that setup but try and think like a baby snake ...

    Clearly need a warm and cooler side with ideally identical hides at each end ( plus others if possible dotted around ) .

    I'd then put dark paper on three sides ( already suggested ) and get to a local woods / forest and collect some branches and pieces of dead/dried bark - can't really have too much clutter . I also get cheap fake foleage from one of the Pound shops .
    The snake will then feel happier and more secure and certainly more likely to settle down and even eat .


    Good luck !!
  • 07-17-2017, 08:30 AM
    Craiga 01453
    Re: Update from new owner, please help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I'd picture yourself in that setup but try and think like a baby snake ...


    Clever way to make the point you were trying to make, Zinc. I like it!!!! :gj:
  • 07-17-2017, 11:33 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Update from new owner, please help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    Clever way to make the point you were trying to make, Zinc. I like it!!!! :gj:

    That's my Aspergers kicking in :)
  • 07-17-2017, 11:56 AM
    JodanOrNoDan
    LOL. Think like a ball.

    Female...
    Most days. Let me see how little I can do today and how small a place I can fit my gigantic butt into.
    After dark. Food guy is in the room. See if he has rat. Nope. Go back to sleep.
    10% let me out to play.
    Another 10%. Leave me alone. I don't like you.

    Males...
    Daytime. Sleep.
    Nighttime. I know this is the thousandth time I have tried, but maybe this time I can find a way to get to that girls tub.
    Comes to front of tub, you going to let me go on a date tonight?
    80%. Stop trying to feed me you know I only eat six months out of the year.

    All...
    Oh wow! Poop! Let me see if I can paint a picture.

    To the OP. There are reasons beyond just saving space that breeders keep balls like this.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...62e3bea1ce.jpg

    The biggest being it is super easy to keep the animals content, healthy, and "happy" with minimal maintenance.
  • 07-17-2017, 02:21 PM
    Zincubus
    Update from new owner, please help
    I'd question wether snakes stacked up in small containers in racks are 'happy' to be honest.

    Have a Royal / Ball in a Viv /rub with a hide ( preferably two ) and a water dish and it's fair to say you won't see much of them ...

    Add some branches and fake foliage and the same Royal will be out roaming and climbing for hours every evening .

    I prefer the latter if only as they're be getting some exercise . .. I also think they're happier climbing and slithering around or else they wouldn't bother and just stay in their hides ..


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